From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, rrandresf@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 22:45:25 +0300 [thread overview] Message-ID: <50acd968-4459-2fab-1609-7869e1ed072a@yandex.ru> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20200407174217.GC4009@ACM> Hi Alan, On 07.04.2020 20:42, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> Scenarios that are made slower if the file is large are probably caused >> by the same architectural decisions that make (find-file "src/xdisp.c") >> slow-ish. All those could likely be improved if CC Mode migrated to >> using syntax-propertize-function, with its on-demand approach to parsing. > > Please would you stop saying this. It's not true, and it gets very > wearing. The crude syntax-propertize-function mechanism would have to > be considerably enhanced before it could support CC Mode's features. I will shut up about it now (saying it twice it plenty), but I am pretty confident saying that if you manage to migrate to s-p-f, file opening time will go down. Performance while typing is likely to improve too, at least when the same buffer is not shown in another window, many thousand lines later. It's not a given, but I'd really like to see you try collaborating with Stefan. At least for a prototype, to have a better idea of the associated performance tradeoffs. He posted a preliminary patch in the past, FWIW. "Considerable enhancement" can also be a part of that discussion. > And even then, it would be unlikely to be faster than the current CC > Mode. Some scenarios can become slower, that's for sure. But the more common ones can get faster. We won't know until we try.
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2020-03-21 22:19 emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 rrandresf
2020-03-21 22:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-22 3:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-22 12:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-22 15:08 ` Amin Bandali
2020-03-22 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-23 2:51 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-26 19:31 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-26 20:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-26 20:38 ` rrandresf
2020-03-27 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-27 18:36 ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28 2:48 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-28 7:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 9:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 11:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 11:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 12:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 12:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 12:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 13:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 13:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 14:13 ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28 13:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-28 12:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-28 2:40 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-28 9:21 ` Michael Albinus
2020-03-28 9:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 10:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 14:43 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-03-28 15:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 15:17 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-03-28 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 16:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 16:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 16:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 16:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 21:08 ` rrandresf
2020-03-28 21:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 21:38 ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28 21:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 22:15 ` andres.ramirez
2020-03-28 22:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 16:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-29 17:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 18:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 18:54 ` emacs-tree-sitter and font-lock (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) Stefan Monnier
2020-03-29 19:20 ` emacs-tree-sitter and font-lock Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 10:15 ` font lock with functions (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) David Engster
2020-03-31 10:42 ` font lock with functions Adam Porter
2020-03-31 13:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 14:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 14:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 15:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 10:13 ` David Engster
2020-04-01 1:02 ` Stephen Leake
2020-03-29 18:27 ` emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 18:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 19:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 19:04 ` 조성빈
2020-03-29 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-30 13:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 2:28 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-31 13:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 16:05 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 18:00 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 18:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 18:34 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 19:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-01 2:07 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-01 13:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02 2:32 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-02 7:32 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 2:52 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-03 6:59 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 13:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-03 16:23 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 16:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-04 8:54 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 18:08 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-04 8:55 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 0:07 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-05 1:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 8:46 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 20:38 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-05 10:23 ` Inlining policy (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) Andrea Corallo
2020-04-06 18:15 ` Inlining policy Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 18:26 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-06 19:17 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-06 21:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-08 4:03 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-08 18:28 ` Andrea Corallo
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2020-04-08 19:09 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-08 21:00 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-08 21:31 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-03 17:47 ` emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04 8:56 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-04 10:45 ` Alan Mackenzie
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