From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Translating the eps files in lispintro Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 13:20:34 +0000 Message-ID: <50B9A33C-4A1F-4C57-B9C7-C158FAAFBD6C@traductaire-libre.org> References: <358143F2-8762-40B1-ABB1-2280EF291A45@traductaire-libre.org> <87plxt3fu6.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28983"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel , Stefan Kangas To: Tim Landscheidt Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 22 15:36:36 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rRvPe-0007LK-MC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2024 15:36:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rRvOo-0006Ep-Ag; Mon, 22 Jan 2024 09:35:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rRuEU-0007he-KK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2024 08:20:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-4022.proton.ch ([185.70.40.22]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rRuEP-0005IX-EI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2024 08:20:57 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=traductaire-libre.org; s=protonmail; t=1705929649; x=1706188849; bh=UucyJOxz10SmS73Ptpc6Eweks0hDhT6DOHw/avSPOSM=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=KwySIHP7GYHopFSUkZkobT64EbzWB9quDG18bMgtJKQ0Qk8Tn8WJEUi48El0TsoZp VU6njThYn6azOO8MWX9bM5IF2J7cEQ0DXgL4HBIqk3Oy5fb/JStX7DYZ1ylETM4d/R 3kagWEHgTCLREk79PMiqRVwqWAbYK8LtrUQgjkcoYfifO7Y/rHyJ8695F6k+F/7xWC HqRwnIgYWlGCs6Vrw6n6HJ452EOiNNz2IkrhnG9Tp/XFfZmtbqlrzAUGjPi+iD2PN5 vtKcW/rc/ZWV75cQMqtWzj8Qi05LAmL+2rg0gU+yxQjlUdGbfQAxcD94mEh0F5FHXp hfl1rXa/ykWfQ== In-Reply-To: <87plxt3fu6.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> Feedback-ID: 92162971:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.40.22; envelope-from=jean.christophe.helary@traductaire-libre.org; helo=mail-4022.proton.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 09:35:24 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:315216 Archived-At: > On Jan 22, 2024, at 17:57, Tim Landscheidt wrote= : >=20 > Jean-Christophe Helary wro= te: >=20 >> [=E2=80=A6] >=20 >> It would seem more practical to have a format that's a bit easier to edi= t (SVG, if only because it supports unicode) and from there use conversion = tools to create the required formats: >=20 >> eps for TeX (DVI output) >> pdf/png/jpg (jpeg) for TeX (PDF output) >> png, jpg (jpeg), gif for HTML output (although the current output does n= ot use images but just plain text) >> eps, gif, jpeg (jpg), pdf, png, svg for DocBook output >=20 >> https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/texinfo.html#Images >=20 >> Considering the needs of the lisp introduction, we could have svg for an= eventual DocBook output, png for the HTML and PDF output, eps for the DVI = output and we'd be all set. >=20 >> Or maybe the actual source for the EPS (and PDF) files found in the intr= o is somewhere else? Are the files created from the texinfo source? >=20 > Looking at the images, it seems natural to write them in > groff/pic and then generate whatever. Do you have experience in generating images with non ascii text with groff? I just tried a simple tutorial and it did not come out well. The translation thread mentioned French, Chinese and Japanese.