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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Writing syntax-propertize-function for strings in code in strings, etc
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 01:52:06 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <508B0606.5040209@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvr4olug37.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On 27.10.2012 0:41, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>> Yes, one "push <inner-syntax-table>" and one "pop".
>> So, I don't see the usefulness of the <inner-syntax-table> value in the
>> simple case of embedding code in the same language.
>
> It's for the other cases: strings with strings and comments within strings.

Okay. I guess I just don't know [well enough] any languages with 
different embedded syntaxes.

>> Unless we're doing something like the "multiple-modes" use case, which we
>> discussed in another thread.
>
> Yes, it potentially could be used for m-m-m, tho it would only be
> a piece of the puzzle (and it's not clear how useful that piece would be
> in the end, once we have the whole puzzle).

It will help with third-party frameworks, at least, which is what we 
discussed back then, that (syntax-ppss) will return reasonable values.

>>> Of course, this is fine for parse-partial-sexp, but it's a different
>>> matter for backward-sexp, where the "pop" would also need to know the
>>> <inner-syntax-table>.
>> Maybe in the latter case the scanning function, when encountering the "pop"
>> syntax property, would just skip ahead until it finds the corresponding
>> "push"?
>
> Without knowing the inner syntax table, it's pretty difficult to know
> what can be skipped (unless we assume that the "push" can only be marked
> with a `syntax-table' text-property).

Indeed. But I think it's a reasonable assumption. In all cases I can 
think about the "region opener" is at least two characters long, and it 
often depends on the context (like only inside a string).

But suppose "push" characters can be set inside a syntax table.
Let's move point inside an embedded code region, maybe several levels 
deep. Now we want to call `forward-sexp'. How will it know the effective 
syntax-table value at that position?



  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-26 21:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-08  3:23 Writing syntax-propertize-function for strings in code in strings, etc Dmitry Gutov
2012-09-08 19:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-09  0:13   ` Dmitry Gutov
     [not found]   ` <504FE870.7070002@yandex.ru>
     [not found]     ` <jwvlietxls1.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2012-10-26 19:18       ` Dmitry Gutov
2012-10-26 20:41         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-26 21:52           ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2012-10-28 15:46             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-02  4:54               ` Dmitry Gutov
2012-11-15  1:40                 ` Stefan Monnier

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