From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexandre Garreau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Keybinding styles Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 23:29:24 +0200 Message-ID: <5069841.y6mJfzL4n5@galex-713.eu> References: <87tuim2bys.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18164"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=C3=A9_A=2E?= Gomes , eliz@gnu.org, theophilusx@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, john@yates-sheets.org To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 15 23:30:16 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mQcTv-0004Zo-Tu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 23:30:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51796 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQcTu-0002j5-Dg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 17:30:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42110) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQcTL-000230-D1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 17:29:39 -0400 Original-Received: from portable.galex-713.eu ([2a00:5884:8305::1]:43852 helo=galex-713.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQcTJ-0001x8-Mr; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 17:29:39 -0400 Original-Received: from gal by galex-713.eu with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mQcT6-0006SH-9i; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 23:29:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:5884:8305::1; envelope-from=galex-713@galex-713.eu; helo=galex-713.eu X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274779 Archived-At: Le mercredi 15 septembre 2021, 22:15:00 CEST Richard Stallman a =C3=A9crit : > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >=20 > > But I brought the subject from another perspective. When a user > > runs > > (info-emacs-manual), shouldn't it reflect Emacs' state? Concretely, > > if > > I rebind C-x C-f to something else, the manual should tell me. It > > seems to me like a missed opportunity. >=20 > That would fit into the spirit of Emacs documentation, but calling it > a "missed opportunity" supposes that we have an opportunity to do it. >=20 > Do we have an opportunity? Maybe, but I tend to doubt it. I tend to > think that doing this correctly is a big job; a simple search and > replace will get confused and make mistakes. >=20 > I could be mistaken. If it turns out to be easy, why not? But I don't > think this is important enough to be worth a lot of work. Don=E2=80=99t we already have a special markup in texinfo for keybindings?= =20 otherwise we ought to: we control texinfo (essentially used for emacs and=20 some other popular gnu stuff (since it=E2=80=99s used by gnu stuff)), and t= he main=20 implementation already is emacs. We could add some markup to contextualize the origin of keybindings (for=20 instance what mode/software the current section is talking about)