From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Reachable killed buffers Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 22:18:56 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <50516CC0.6080006@cs.ucla.edu> References: <504848D0.4020908@yandex.ru> <5048D826.3040103@yandex.ru> <5049C400.8070400@gmx.at> <504DB6DD.9030002@yandex.ru> <504E042E.5040100@yandex.ru> <504ECB49.4050509@yandex.ru> <50504349.7090603@gmx.at> <50509262.1070601@cs.ucla.edu> <50509533.9000502@yandex.ru> <50509698.5060108@cs.ucla.edu> <505098FB.1020801@gmx.at> <5050B151.2020304@yandex.ru> <5050CC93.3010506@cs.ucla.edu> <5051645B.9070308@cs.ucla.edu> <50516875.5060607@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1347513543 2200 80.91.229.3 (13 Sep 2012 05:19:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 05:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: martin rudalics , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Antipov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 13 07:19:06 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TC1pQ-0005AA-H9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 07:19:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39761 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TC1pM-00009y-R1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 01:19:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59319) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TC1pJ-00009g-R7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 01:18:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TC1pJ-0001jM-0K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 01:18:57 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:36675) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TC1pI-0001jA-Qe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 01:18:56 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABBD39E800D; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 22:18:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nvLkSbD7fR02; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 22:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-108-23-119-2.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [108.23.119.2]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3738839E8007; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 22:18:55 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120827 Thunderbird/15.0 In-Reply-To: <50516875.5060607@yandex.ru> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:153267 Archived-At: On 09/12/2012 10:00 PM, Dmitry Antipov wrote: > the user should realize that destructive > list modifications may cause some strange effects. If destructive list modifications have the effect of destroying a list, that's not a strange effect -- on the contrary, it's what the user wants. But if the modifications also cause buffers to be deleted seemingly at random -- sometimes reachable buffers are deleted by the garbage collector, and sometimes not -- that's a bit too weird for comfort.