From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: random doesn't feel very random Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 02:10:28 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <50374504.4050807@cs.ucla.edu> References: <876288yh72.fsf@kanis.fr> <87ipc8vkj6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1345799439 8681 80.91.229.3 (24 Aug 2012 09:10:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ivan Kanis , emacs devel To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 24 11:10:40 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T4puZ-0006lC-Ge for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:10:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42182 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T4puX-0005gg-H9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:10:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47115) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T4puQ-0005gX-Jy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:10:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T4puK-0007eb-Po for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:10:30 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:33461) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T4puK-0007dX-JL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:10:24 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9077A60001; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 02:10:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UMpUEEUL3vne; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 02:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-108-23-119-2.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [108.23.119.2]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C7D6D39E8017; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 02:10:22 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 In-Reply-To: <87ipc8vkj6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:152796 Archived-At: On 08/24/2012 12:03 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > That doesn't mean there are no such experts among Emacs developers, > it just means I haven't seen anybody display appropriate credentials > on emacs-devel. I'm not sure what you mean by "credentials". Is there a secret handshake we have to use? Or does published code suffice? http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/coreutils.git/tree/gl/lib/rand-isaac.c An analysis is here: http://burtleburtle.net/bob/rand/isaacafa.html I haven't bothered to put this stuff into Emacs, but it shouldn't be that hard to add if there's a real need.