From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Davis Herring" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: propose adding Icicles to Emacs Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:27:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50195.128.165.123.18.1182464824.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> References: Reply-To: herring@lanl.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182464845 15532 80.91.229.12 (21 Jun 2007 22:27:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 22:27:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 22 00:27:23 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I1V7W-0000YM-Cj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 00:27:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1V7V-00079I-Ph for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:27:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1V7S-00078w-Q9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:27:14 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1V7Q-00078Z-Uo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:27:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1V7Q-00078U-PB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:27:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailwasher.lanl.gov ([192.65.95.54] helo=mailwasher-b.lanl.gov) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I1V7N-0006lO-Qy; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:27:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mailwasher-b.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.6/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id l5LMR59h012990; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:27:05 -0600 Original-Received: from webmail1.lanl.gov (webmail1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.106]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id l5LMR48F002050; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:27:05 -0600 Original-Received: from webmail1.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by webmail1.lanl.gov (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l5LMR4D4021738; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:27:04 -0600 Original-Received: (from apache@localhost) by webmail1.lanl.gov (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Submit) id l5LMR4Cq021734; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:27:04 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: webmail1.lanl.gov: apache set sender to herring@lanl.gov using -f Original-Received: from 128.165.123.18 (SquirrelMail authenticated user 196434) by webmail.lanl.gov with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:27:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-6.el3.2lanl X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075 X-CTN-5-MailScanner-Information: Please see http://network.lanl.gov/email/virus-scan.php X-CTN-5-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CTN-5-MailScanner-From: herring@lanl.gov X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73568 Archived-At: >> > In the vanilla Emacs `customize-apropos-faces', you must >> > [snip] >> >> In general, then, this process probably deserves another name than >> "completing-read". It's related to re-builder, in that it is >> interactive >> "explanation" of a regexp; perhaps it could be called "building-read" or >> so? > > At least one of us is likely confused about what the other means ;-). > > What I was talking about has nothing to do with re-builder. No connection. > This is also not about "an interactive guide to the effects of your > entered > regexp". In Icicles, you do not enter a regexp (with RET) at all. You type > some input and then complete it. One of the completion possibilities is to > use regexp matching instead of prefix matching. So, if your input is > `foo.*bar' and you ask for regexp matching, then you can match candidates > such as titifoobar, foo$titibar, and titifoo&*!(*@^$$$+%bartata. We're talking about entering a regexp for (a more powerful version of) `customize-apropos-faces'. The result of your call to `completing-read' is a regexp, which you then pass to the original c-a-f. The "completions", however, are not regexps, and so look very odd in the context of completing the user's input -- of a regexp. That's all I'm saying. Davis -- This product is sold by volume, not by mass. If it appears too dense or too sparse, it is because mass-energy conversion has occurred during shipping.