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From: Dmitry Antipov <dmantipov@yandex.ru>
To: Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com>
Cc: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@gnu.org>,
	Emacs development discussions <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Note on 109327
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:50:43 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5017E2B3.1060608@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877gtk12e1.fsf@fleche.redhat.com>

On 07/31/2012 05:33 PM, Tom Tromey wrote:

> Dmitry> Yes. I'm always thinking about improving internal stuff, GC at first.
> Dmitry> For me, the main motivation for BVAR, KVAR, FVAR etc. is the ability
> Dmitry> to catch the moment when the pointer (e.g. Lisp_Object) within buffer,
> Dmitry> or keyboard, of frame, etc. is read or written, which may be useful
> Dmitry> to implement write barriers (see, for exmaple,
> Dmitry> http://www.hoelzle.org/publications/write-barrier.pdf, but do not
> Dmitry> get confused with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_barrier).
>
> I think to do this well you will need separate macros for getting and
> setting.

Sure, but it's almost impossible to do this at once. At the very beginning,
it's possible to "overestimate" barrier assuming that each XVAR (obj, field)
changes FIELD in OBJ; in the future, reads and writes may be separated, thus
giving a precise write barrier.

Dmitry




  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-31 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-31 12:38 Note on 109327 Dmitry Antipov
2012-07-31 13:13 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2012-07-31 13:25   ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-07-31 13:33     ` Tom Tromey
2012-07-31 13:50       ` Dmitry Antipov [this message]
2012-07-31 21:47         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-08-01  4:34           ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-07-31 13:54 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-07-31 17:04   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-31 17:17     ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-07-31 17:35     ` joakim
2012-07-31 17:56       ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-07-31 17:42     ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-07-31 18:06       ` Refactoring in Emacs (was: Note on 109327) Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-01  4:14         ` Refactoring in Emacs Dmitry Antipov
2012-08-01 11:41           ` Refactoring in Emacs : CEDET Eric M. Ludlam
2012-08-01 14:50             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-01 23:42               ` Eric Ludlam
2012-08-01 22:41           ` Refactoring in Emacs Richard Stallman
2012-08-01 14:05         ` Jason Rumney
2012-07-31 15:16 ` Note on 109327 Jan Djärv

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