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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250598 Archived-At: On 17.05.2020 16:01, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> Most people (somewhat wrongly) think of GNU ELPA as a*distribution* >> > site for third party packages, like MELPA. >> >> Maybe that changes things. If we present ELPA as just a distribution >> site. > If we regard ELPA just as distribution site, we shouldn't decide so lightly to leave important packages on ELPA, we should be tend more to adding them to core. I would like to point out, as an author of several packages, that in my experience having a package in ELPA is _better_ than having it in the core. The exception to that rule is more or less cases where the package is not only added but also enabled by default.