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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: liwei.ma@gmail.com, kevin.legouguec@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: When will emacs 27.1 be officially released?
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 01:31:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4d2cff85-3a3d-c26e-504a-027734bfe36c@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <93bffae8-e8e5-2eea-7087-5a894cbfea0c@cs.ucla.edu>

On 01.07.2020 01:17, Paul Eggert wrote:
> Is there some way we could step that up? E.g., perhaps start by reminding people
> who commit code changes but not changes to the corresponding documentation that
> they need to do the documenation ASAP. Eventually, we could defer or even revert
> changes until they're documented. The idea would be to change the culture of
> coding-without-documenting.

What will those of us do who find the current way the manual is written 
suboptimal? And who generally don't read it anyway.

I've had multiple discussions with Eli on how things should be described 
and structured, after which my contributions ended us essentially fully 
rewritten. I'm not bitter about those occurrences, but it seems to me 
that adding to the manual wouldn't be very productive for me in many 
cases (unless it's a minor fix of an existing entry) if someone is going 
to rewrite all of it.

Likewise, you yourself didn't accept my version of another change that 
we discussed most recently.

Also, if we're considering patches from minor contributors, this can be 
an extra barrier for entry (make sure to get the commit message right, 
and NEWS, *and* the manual), which is higher than the other two.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-30 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-30  2:52 When will emacs 27.1 be officially released? Liwei Ma
2020-06-30  3:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-30  8:12   ` tomas
2020-06-30  9:51   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-06-30 16:58     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-30 18:52       ` Paul Eggert
2020-06-30 19:06         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-30 22:17           ` Paul Eggert
2020-06-30 22:31             ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2020-07-01  0:03               ` Paul Eggert
2020-07-01 14:29               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-01 17:47                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-01 17:52                   ` Paul Eggert
2020-07-01 17:55                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-01 18:13                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-01 18:16                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-01 18:12                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-01 14:33             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-02  3:49               ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-02 13:04                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-03  2:21                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-02 20:29             ` Tassilo Horn
2020-07-02 20:36               ` Paul Eggert
2020-07-02 20:55                 ` Tassilo Horn
2020-07-04  2:53                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-04  6:41                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-05  2:35                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-05 14:33                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-03  6:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-03  7:24                 ` Tassilo Horn
2020-07-03 11:59                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-04  2:52                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-06-30 22:09       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-07-01 14:49         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-02  9:00           ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-07-02 13:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-02 13:44               ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-07-03  0:48       ` Do pretests reach end users? (was: When will emacs 27.1 be officially released?) Dmitry Alexandrov
2020-07-03  6:21         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-03  9:59           ` Do pretests reach end users? Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-03 11:43             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-03 20:23               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-04  6:15                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-04  1:31           ` Dmitry Alexandrov
2020-07-04  6:32             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-05  4:18               ` Dmitry Alexandrov
2020-07-04 11:11             ` Phillip Lord
2020-07-05  4:23               ` Dmitry Alexandrov
2020-07-05 21:15                 ` Phillip Lord
2020-07-05 16:55             ` Sean Whitton
2020-06-30 13:01   ` When will emacs 27.1 be officially released? Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-06-30 14:06     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-30 14:28     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-30 14:34 ` Rostislav Svoboda

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