From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phil Sainty Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Comments on setopt Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 11:34:00 +1300 Message-ID: <4c4c5c471f1e72220a2756c315b1b501@webmail.orcon.net.nz> References: <871r05rr2r.fsf@posteo.net> <87a6esztjj.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21508"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Orcon Webmail Cc: philipk@posteo.net, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Po Lu , larsi@gnus.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Rudolf_Adamkovi=C4=8D?= To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 16 23:35:04 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nKSt6-0005Pb-HJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2022 23:35:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51122 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nKSt5-0002d2-3z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2022 17:35:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37026) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nKSsZ-0001vW-Hr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2022 17:34:31 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp-3.orcon.net.nz ([60.234.4.44]:48059) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nKSsX-0001OS-JF; Wed, 16 Feb 2022 17:34:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [10.253.37.70] (port=55349 helo=webmail.orcon.net.nz) by smtp-3.orcon.net.nz with esmtpa (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nKSs4-0006hW-Bu; Thu, 17 Feb 2022 11:34:00 +1300 Original-Received: from ip-139-180-65-103.kinect.net.nz ([139.180.65.103]) via [10.253.37.253] by webmail.orcon.net.nz with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Thu, 17 Feb 2022 11:34:00 +1300 In-Reply-To: X-Sender: psainty@orcon.net.nz X-GeoIP: -- Received-SPF: pass client-ip=60.234.4.44; envelope-from=psainty@orcon.net.nz; helo=smtp-3.orcon.net.nz X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:286402 Archived-At: On 2022-02-17 02:23, Stefan Monnier wrote: > As pointed out, `setopt` should probably not be used at top-level > in a `.emacs` because Custom will think this was set via > `customize-set-variables` and will save that setting back into > `custom-file` next time we ask to save the customized variables. From the description I thought this would invoke any setter function but otherwise act like setq in that it would *not* touch the user's custom file. That would be the desirable behaviour, no? -Phil