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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258296 Archived-At: > > I am reading the Emacs Lisp Manual from beginning and > > sequencially. Found reference to =E2=80=98alist=E2=80=99 in section 2.4= .12 Hash Table > > Type without any previous explanation. > > > > Either a brief summary should be provided before this, probably near > > 2.4.6 Cons Cell and List Types or a cross-reference should be added. >=20 > If you are reading the manual in order, you should have read 2.4.6.3 > "Association List Type", where "alist" is explained, before you got to > 2.4.12. How come you didn't see that? Yes, "if". Aside from whether Pankaj should have seen that: People don't necessarily (or even often) read manuals "in order". Even when they do, it can help to put important terms in a glossary, and add links from the glossary to topics that also define, or otherwise expand on the terms. The Emacs manual has a glossary (`g glossary'), but the Elisp manual doesn't. It could have one too. Links from occurrences to glossary entries (or if no glossary, to a defining topic) can help. E.g., put a glossary link on the first occurrence of a term in a given topic, especially if understanding the term is important to understanding that topic.