From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: ndame Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?" Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 06:00:33 +0000 Message-ID: <4amRIW9fznS6sa3th4xPABzua9LQDlNPeIFxVsGYdq_wsg4-Ea1l9sEP-T6QrnO5QMV3jhgrnAspk2mSIC7COlodqr04koAcIPYPLLmPHFM=@protonmail.com> References: <8wXYP4GY9hwW-9mYv6_LGMETZ8Vz3Ob1Bec6yh6kPT7yxjTkxA3V6dXY4ELra9tYiJUxJmgXKSIEX4w8HFiPRoeGVSQHDSoBVy1voj1e3Qo=@protonmail.com> <83lfmxgt6c.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhbcg6s4.fsf@gnu.org> <833694f29y.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: ndame Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="109835"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "yandros@gmail.com" , "dgutov@yandex.ru" , "rms@gnu.org" , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 16 08:01:44 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jOxaq-000SVZ-4C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 08:01:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58266 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jOxap-0007H2-5C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 02:01:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58323) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jOxa5-0006ev-KT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 02:00:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jOxa4-0006XM-Av for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 02:00:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mail4.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.27]:32925) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jOxa1-0006Ti-UF; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 02:00:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=default; t=1587016838; bh=QT2rm9tlspWGwTD+qFHW9R22lbRwlUIAPt/WbRIOJ4M=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=OL57FFBwROB17b73IimFcDKycQzcovhHIz4rk5/3X1yxR7CpcxNTjqY1zZ/jqnoNM OTrfVDltmTrE3KM8QVPlVwAjIFcZ6utGTdU+1wqBD2FW0aIQLjAkkL48yMOCGohg2R HuiSqaoVxhDS4FN4FizJAIdkiFJFxk5sp3onAhMc= In-Reply-To: <833694f29y.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 185.70.40.27 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247075 Archived-At: > > We don't use the native buttons on MS-Windows. The only native > widgets used on MS-Windows (AFAIR) are the menu bar and the scroll > bars. Interesting. I sort of assumed Emacs looks the same everywhere and thought all emacs users saw these old fashioned buttons if they open up Customize which I see on Windows. But if emacs uses native buttons elsewhere then it means Emacs can look much better on other platforms, at least as far as we consider GUI widgets. Wouldn't it make sense to use native controls on every graphical platform?