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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229362 Archived-At: > > It's equivalent to your doing this without `delete-selection-mode': > > C-x C-x M-w, then some letter >=20 > I guess you meant C-w there. Yes, sorry; my bad. > > I see zero difference between editing code and editing plain prose, > > in this regard. In both cases the selection can be replaced by typing, >=20 > As mentioned above, I agree with this. >=20 > > and that's a plus, not a minus. >=20 > Maybe. My feeling from using non-Emacs editors (gasp!), is that the > main use of this sort of thing is rather for replacing the selection > by pasting, not so about much typing. Or, for when some feature > inserts some default text, it highlights that text, indicating to the > user that they may replace it by typing (i.e., it's rare that a > user-created selection is deleted by typing). Yes, those are useful use cases. But so is typing to replace, I think.