From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 16:29:08 +0300 Message-ID: <4a1fd3f4-df92-c756-9874-4d07b54148ac@yandex.ru> References: <831ro2tqqx.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="41333"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 02 15:29:54 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jUsDK-000AfI-Fq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 15:29:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59250 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUsDJ-00039i-Do for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:29:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46484) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUsCf-0002hK-Ta for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:29:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUsCf-0005c6-Gy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:29:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm1-x32a.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::32a]:54274) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUsCf-0005Xn-2e; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:29:13 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-x32a.google.com with SMTP id h4so3073109wmb.4; Sat, 02 May 2020 06:29:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=63z7U1S50aUc0C9Yab2D3+DoYivjdQdTN6MRd12BBOA=; b=mBt35vF1hv99YiKmlmf5Tasdb8AH/gZqMSbCZJ8h6qQKWhzcNuhpkxtG+OvIrVpvGI DOampXbSxfeZTA77cfeRj/ICr5RXx0ejeS7ZIPAJU4yPIxV+V8VvT0fV93XX7v/s2YIO u/QZrPLtcci0pdgsrkVduEVmpNFQuU9uzqTqWqeoRDwUXJlCcfJPu/tFdkQHygl5xx3I Z99CrcpvAjrFFxlX1efel5lNtUwElcFsjTahRC3m8imr6ShNHugHDUGgOA1JoDzezJzU nDTntGqDi9m/SO/N6nLwLEJAhjffVHnwjZ0CMNrzwy9O91ZNcHHcCF6dUykjIajPqLXT alhQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=63z7U1S50aUc0C9Yab2D3+DoYivjdQdTN6MRd12BBOA=; b=sDI9iEwTjFZxOlp9X03wKeWZO2X+H4O7LuyOF0Mu1yH+Ar5/yddxdvucYagAQ6cWna o+U0TmlP5afTmqyHsAudIi9ZrCqNSdhZHEmzmbqjX2FpdHSYEVnnqF7e1d6obnlcSjzG rkmKOjTGcwULFizYIS4tJFGVbBFohueuu4G/ZZ7KQyJ0oIO+X8tCV0WTfOPao2CqesDB M9D9nLxlOhyzGYOhymICd8nHvLNhXwXkx7ahBTvu0K+SA3Kf6p7YsMrwVubMSqnnSGVa EEd45qWCm3BvjUFmU+7vhePqk8V6tP3GeT2EIbPVb2b4Y0jx3rixcAFmSLmGI93meivX Zgtw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuZ7heTYMq8q+mNHznmZ+CmF0vwCO4O5G8FjaP7knlQ8MaSEgWbX EQ+sFTq+hKp139eY/YjU7Rm+A49T3Is= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypI9peMg8pBG3cEjdNCQrIgr2svgJuWvZNGtpYroqAgPMJnRKtnhQGxMPtqzhHRe+U4R1D/2Nw== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:9c0a:: with SMTP id f10mr4673947wme.139.1588426150595; Sat, 02 May 2020 06:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.3] ([66.205.73.129]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id s8sm6203298wrt.69.2020.05.02.06.29.09 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 02 May 2020 06:29:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <831ro2tqqx.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::32a; envelope-from=raaahh@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x32a.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: [-] PROGRAM ABORT : Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). Location : parse_addr6(), p0f-client.c:67 X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::32a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248432 Archived-At: On 02.05.2020 16:23, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > You expect the_name_ to tell you all that?? Then what do you think > of C library functions like realpath or stpcpy or strpbrk or rpmatch? Let's please not use the C library as the example of good naming practice. > Let's not exaggerate, it is only useful if you want to present an > argument ad absurdum. The world of programming is full of obscure > acronyms, and there's nothing we can do about that. There are more recent popular languages where the situation is much better. The author of s.el came from one of them.