From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: 24.3.50; Use of deprecated ((lambda ...) ...) form Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 08:50:04 -0800 Message-ID: <4FD95D9C1F934F338FF5BD5B3FAB3443@us.oracle.com> References: <87390ieug9.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1352479838 15687 80.91.229.3 (9 Nov 2012 16:50:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 16:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Stefan Monnier'" , Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 09 17:50:48 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TWrn6-0006IP-14 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:50:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46189 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWrmw-0003td-QU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:50:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38007) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWrmp-0003tV-EX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:50:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWrmj-0007Jl-PJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:50:31 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:24268) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWrmc-0007IZ-Lh; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:50:18 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qA9GoCmB005336 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 9 Nov 2012 16:50:16 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qA9GoB8R004390 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 9 Nov 2012 16:50:11 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt102.oracle.com (abhmt102.oracle.com [141.146.116.54]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qA9Go80C015232; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 10:50:10 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.219.15) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 08:50:08 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2+k0KSiURkUxzkRU+JW8qwzAzuVgABfm7w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:154767 Archived-At: > > why is ((lambda...)...) deprecated? > Why not? Really? We're now deprecating things without giving any reason? And instead we need to provide reasons _not_ to deprecate everything? Deprecation by default? > > this is one of the oldest lisp constructs! > Old doesn't make it good. Does old make it bad? Is everything bad now, by default? No need to say why something is bad, in order to deprecate it? This policy or way of proceeding seems quite misguided, if not downright wrong. But maybe I'm missing something.