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From: 黄建忠 <jianzhong.huang@i-soft.com.cn>
To: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A patch for enforcing double-width CJK character display
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:51:49 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F8D2F25.1070602@i-soft.com.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ipgyet7o.fsf@catnip.gol.com>

于 2012年04月17日 15:02, Miles Bader 写道:
> 黄建忠<jianzhong.huang@i-soft.com.cn>  writes:
>> Maybe your system have a buggy "Lucida Sans TypeWriter" font, you can
>> try the lucida font released with JDK.
>> Hope the problem can be fixed.
> No, I think my copy of L-S-T is fine here (you can see from the images
> I sent in my previous message).
>
> Now that I've seen both, it looks like the issue is that the version
> of "Sazanami minchou" in Debian includes hand-tuned bitmaps.  These
> look much better in many cases, but because there's a limited number
> of them, and the font-rendering system prefers bitmaps, it chooses a
> slightly smaller size so it can use a bitmap.

Yes, I disabled embed-bitmap support in fontconfig, and only tested the 
OUTLINE glyphs of "Sazanami mincho".
I also found problems with some old PCF/BDF Chinese fonts, for example, 
"Song" and "FangSong" shiped with Xorg.
If I use such a font, the auto-matched Chinese pixelsize is even bigger 
than 2 * monospace width.:-(
By the way, some korean PCF fonts also had this problem.

At first, I disable pcf/bdf support in this patch, If it is a pcf/bdf 
font, just keep it unchanged.
but this is really not a good idea. for example, "SimSun.ttc"(the 
default font of Windowz XP CN version) is a very famous font for 
Chinese, almost everyone use it, it provides 9/10/11pt embedded bitmap 
"song". A lot of users even can not accept "ClearType" and "YaHei" in 
Vizta and Win 7. :-D

>
> The result is as you can see, that the size of CJK characters is
> smaller than you might expect from the size specified.
>
> Maybe this is such a rare case that it can be ignored, I dunno, but it
> does appear that everything is functioning properly...
Yes, I agree, We should try best to keep everything work well.
I consider to ignore PCF/BDF font again in this patch.
>
> -miles
>


-- 
Huang JianZhong




  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-04-17  8:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4F85A138.6090900@i-soft.com.cn>
2012-04-11 15:48 ` A patch for enforcing double-width CJK character display Kan-Ru Chen
2012-04-11 16:16   ` 黄建忠
2012-04-12  8:56     ` 黄建忠
2012-04-12  9:53       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-12 11:18         ` 黄建忠
2012-04-12 14:27           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-12 17:56             ` 黄建忠
2012-04-12 20:33               ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                 ` <4F8782C8.2030005@i-soft.com.cn>
2012-04-13 11:42                   ` 黄建忠
2012-04-13 12:03                     ` 黄建忠
2012-04-13 13:27                   ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-15  5:10                     ` Miles Bader
2012-04-15 13:27                       ` 黄建忠
2012-04-15 16:08                       ` William Xu
2012-04-15 22:19                         ` Miles Bader
2012-04-16  0:51                           ` 黄建忠
2012-04-16  5:27                             ` Miles Bader
2012-04-16  5:40                               ` 黄建忠
2012-04-16  6:37                                 ` 黄建忠
2012-04-16  9:21                                   ` 黄建忠
2012-04-17  2:16                                     ` 黄建忠
2012-04-17  0:13                                   ` Miles Bader
2012-04-17  0:39                                     ` Miles Bader
2012-04-17  2:00                                       ` 黄建忠
2012-04-17  2:30                                         ` Miles Bader
2012-04-17  3:00                                           ` 黄建忠
2012-04-17  4:08                                             ` Miles Bader
2012-04-17  4:56                                               ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-04-17  5:02                                                 ` 黄建忠
2012-04-17  6:33                                                   ` Miles Bader
2012-04-17  7:03                                                   ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-04-17  5:52                                                 ` Miles Bader
2012-04-17  6:10                                                   ` 黄建忠
2012-04-17  7:02                                                     ` Miles Bader
2012-04-17  8:06                                                       ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-04-17  8:25                                                         ` Miles Bader
2012-04-17  9:06                                                           ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-04-17  8:51                                                       ` 黄建忠 [this message]
2012-04-17  6:45                                                   ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-04-17  9:07                                       ` James Cloos
2012-04-17  9:27                                         ` 黄建忠
2012-04-17  1:47                                     ` 黄建忠
2012-04-18  6:54                               ` Kenichi Handa
2012-04-18  8:13                                 ` 黄建忠
2012-04-18 13:58                                 ` Miles Bader
2014-04-28  5:35 JunJie Nan
2014-04-29  5:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-29  6:36   ` Jan D.
2014-04-29  8:16   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-04-29 20:41 ` Liang Wang
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-04-30  2:00 Hui Liu
2014-04-30 17:08 ` Liang Wang
2014-10-04  3:26 Feng Shu

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