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From: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
To: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>
Cc: egnarts-ms <egnartsms@gmail.com>,
	Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>,
	Emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: CL package serious deficiencies
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:34:06 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F3198CE.9000900@dancol.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r4y6bams.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix>

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On 2/7/12 1:23 PM, Nix wrote:
> (FWIW, the *last* time I asked about this, many years ago, I was told
> that runtime use of cl was out of the question because it used too much
> memory. I presume that this argument is obsolete :) )

I've long been an advocate of dumping cl with Emacs; XEmacs does so
without problems. CLisms simply result in cleaner, smaller code than
one can write using nothing but elisp primitives.

The latest objection is that dumping CL would Emacs would increase the
size of the printed and bound Emacs Lisp Reference Manual from the
FSF. I find this objection unconvincing because it applies to _any_
new feature, and I don't think we're against adding new features to Emacs.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-02-07 21:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-06 14:18 CL package serious deficiencies egnarts-ms
2012-02-06 21:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-06 21:53   ` Drew Adams
2012-02-07  3:02     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-07 12:04       ` egnarts-ms
2012-02-07 17:36         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-08 13:15           ` egnarts-ms
2012-02-08 19:07             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-07 12:29     ` egnarts-ms
2012-02-07 18:43     ` Nix
2012-02-07 19:11       ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-07 19:15         ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-02-07 20:54           ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-07 21:03         ` John Wiegley
2012-02-07 21:06         ` Nix
2012-02-07 21:08           ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-07 21:10             ` Nix
2012-02-07 21:12               ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-07 21:23                 ` Nix
2012-02-07 21:29                   ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-07 21:30                     ` Nix
2012-02-07 21:32                   ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-07 21:34                   ` Daniel Colascione [this message]
2012-02-07 21:42                     ` Tom Tromey
2012-02-08  1:53                       ` Leo
2012-02-07 22:16                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-02-07 22:19                       ` Nix
2012-02-08 13:28                     ` Richard Stallman
2012-02-08 15:00                       ` Tom Tromey
2012-02-09  6:29                         ` Richard Stallman
2012-02-09 14:23                           ` Eric Schulte
2012-02-10 15:44                             ` Richard Stallman
2012-02-10 18:36                               ` Tom Tromey
2012-02-10 15:52                             ` Tom Tromey
2012-02-10 16:23                               ` Drew Adams
2012-02-10 16:42                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-09  6:30                         ` Richard Stallman
2012-02-09 13:56                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-02-10 15:44                             ` Richard Stallman
2012-02-10 18:34                               ` Tom Tromey
2012-02-10 15:48                           ` Tom Tromey
2012-02-10 18:29                             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-08  2:07                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-07 22:41               ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-07 23:10                 ` Nix
2012-02-08 13:42                   ` Eric Schulte
2012-02-08 13:46                     ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-08 13:51                       ` Eric Schulte
2012-02-08 15:29                         ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-08 15:39                           ` Eric Schulte
2012-02-08 15:43                             ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-08 14:26                     ` Drew Adams
2012-02-08 13:15         ` Teemu Likonen
2012-02-09  7:33           ` spam- or registry-related things in Gnus need cl at run-time? (was: CL package serious deficiencies) Reiner Steib
2012-02-09 16:39             ` spam- or registry-related things in Gnus need cl at run-time? Teemu Likonen
2012-02-07 23:48       ` CL package serious deficiencies Stefan Monnier
2012-02-07 23:52         ` Nix
2012-02-08  0:10           ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-08  0:15             ` Nix
2012-02-08  1:51               ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-08 23:43                 ` Nix
2012-02-09 21:34                   ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-08  2:13           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-08  2:19             ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-08  4:23               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-08 11:00                 ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-08 17:42           ` Richard Stallman
2012-02-08 19:54             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-08  0:38         ` Daniel Colascione
2012-02-08  1:32           ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-08  1:53           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-08  2:26             ` Daniel Colascione
2012-02-08 22:28       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-02-08 22:32         ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-08 23:35         ` Nix
2012-02-09 19:42           ` Richard Stallman
2012-02-09 19:46             ` Nix
2012-02-10  1:09         ` John Wiegley
2012-02-10 14:38         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-10 15:08           ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-02-10 15:35             ` Drew Adams
2012-02-10 18:15               ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-10 18:21                 ` Drew Adams
2012-02-10 15:24           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-02-10 18:24             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-10 18:26               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-02-10 18:47               ` Johan Bockgård
2012-02-10 17:12           ` Helmut Eller
2012-02-10 18:51             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-10 18:55               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-02-10 19:08               ` Teemu Likonen
2012-02-11 13:25                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-02-11 16:56                   ` Johan Bockgård
2012-02-11 22:33                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-02-12  4:41                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-12 15:53                   ` Teemu Likonen
2012-02-12 16:52                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-12 16:55                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-10 23:56               ` Helmut Eller
2012-02-12  4:47                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-12 17:39                   ` Helmut Eller
2012-02-12 18:15                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-12 18:58                       ` Helmut Eller
2012-02-19 12:52         ` Dimitri Fontaine

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