From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Annoyingly cautious make rules Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:15:18 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <4EDA8356.50609@cs.ucla.edu> References: <83ehwnc97k.fsf@gnu.org> <4ED917E2.7020807@cs.ucla.edu> <4ED94331.7030702@cs.ucla.edu> <4ED98EED.5020301@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1322943335 11732 80.91.229.12 (3 Dec 2011 20:15:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 20:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , rms@gnu.org To: Andreas Schwab Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 03 21:15:31 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RWvze-0003nA-JC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 21:15:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51521 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWvzd-0004Tg-U4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 15:15:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48955) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWvzc-0004TY-0y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 15:15:29 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWvzb-0004AD-6M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 15:15:27 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:53733) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWvzZ-00049c-R0; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 15:15:26 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BF439E8007; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 12:15:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 76NU6eXnonDe; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 12:15:17 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pool-71-189-109-235.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.189.109.235]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 38EEE39E8006; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 12:15:17 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:146466 Archived-At: On 12/03/11 00:49, Andreas Schwab wrote: > It is vital that configure is up-to-date wrt. configure.in. It's vital sometimes, but usually not. For example, if you look at the last 10 changes to configure.in (in bzrs 106255 through 106559), only one (bzr 106532) has any relevance to any of the platforms that we routinely develop Emacs on. The others are trivial spelling fixes, or patches for obscure platforms hardly anybody uses, or updating version numbers that don't matter when developing. Each of these unimportant changes causes significant unnecessary delays in development builds, delays that we didn't have before the 2011-03-20 change. It'd be better if we didn't have those delays.