From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Subwindow terminology Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 11:59:43 +0100 Message-ID: <4EB6689F.1000202@gmx.at> References: <87wrbfrxqz.fsf@gnu.org> <4EB51CCC.6040806@gmx.at> <87hb2iohql.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <4EB53A16.3030604@gmx.at> <4EB64A64.8080902@gmx.at> <878vntob44.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1320577196 17572 80.91.229.12 (6 Nov 2011 10:59:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 10:59:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Dave Abrahams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 06 11:59:52 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RN0S7-0000Y5-Qo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 11:59:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32911 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RN0S7-00022x-CT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 05:59:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52948) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RN0S4-00022r-HH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 05:59:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RN0S3-0001dN-G5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 05:59:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]:32873) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RN0S3-0001d7-30 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 05:59:47 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Nov 2011 10:59:45 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-58-45.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.58.45]) [62.47.58.45] by mail.gmx.net (mp010) with SMTP; 06 Nov 2011 11:59:45 +0100 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19v/R1RtF1v2QA/XzZ6i/8Nvfc2i2hA4TNlWq474U JTyqXK92L9W7AT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: <878vntob44.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 213.165.64.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:145898 Archived-At: > In all contexts other than Emacs, subwindow and descendant window (or > perhaps child window) are synonymous. Breaking that connection is > begging for misunderstanding. That's why I didn't mention descendant windows in the first place. > Does anyone ever actually think in genealogical terms? I'm shocked > that you think it matters. (That doesn't mean it doesn't matter, of > course, but I haven't seen any rationale posted for why it does and am > unable to imagine one myself.) Does anybody *ever* care about > anything except in which of the visible windows output will appear > (and similar static questions about the current window configuration)? People interested in manipulating window configurations will have to care. > And at the Lisp level, only leaf windows are actually accessible as > far as I know. Are there any Lisp functions that operate on parent > windows, other than those that create or destroy children? Plenty. You can split, delete, and resize them (you can't resize and delete a frame's root window, obviously). martin