From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-x 2 and C-x 3 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:43:37 +0200 Message-ID: <4EA7D649.3080609@gmx.at> References: <87wrbs5vsx.fsf@gnu.org> <20135.51113.455424.214783@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1319622229 20224 80.91.229.12 (26 Oct 2011 09:43:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 09:43:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ulrich Mueller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 26 11:43:45 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJ01Q-0008Na-FQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:43:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57104 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJ01P-0001Qe-Tc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 05:43:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:33283) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJ01N-0001QN-Bw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 05:43:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJ01M-0000h1-Cx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 05:43:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23]:50016) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJ01L-0000gp-Or for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 05:43:40 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 26 Oct 2011 09:43:38 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-39-90.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.39.90]) [62.47.39.90] by mail.gmx.net (mp057) with SMTP; 26 Oct 2011 11:43:38 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18vv8F/MQIvJ/GxLSOY1ajuF1q1AXFfwMkX8vDSvV AHzJiSeN3i50/H User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: <20135.51113.455424.214783@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 213.165.64.23 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:145557 Archived-At: > Sorry, but may I ask what is the problem with the traditional names of > these commands? Confusion of operation and state based reasoning. People adopting the latter were surprised that a horizontal split would produce a vertical divider (among them ISTR Glenn Morris, Miles Bader and some people on help-gnu-emacs). > They seem to fit well into the systematics of other commands like > mouse-split-window-{horizontally,vertically} These should be probably renamed as well. > and > {enlarge,shrink}-window-horizontally. Resizing is different because action- and state-based reasoning coincide. > Or is the plan to rename all > of them? martin