From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David De La Harpe Golden Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: clipboard/selection: customization vs. rebinding Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:12:59 +0100 Message-ID: <4E07A0DB.7030503@harpegolden.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309122807 2381 80.91.229.12 (26 Jun 2011 21:13:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:13:27 +0000 (UTC) To: Emacs developers Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 26 23:13:24 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qawdv-0000YO-GR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:13:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42869 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qawdt-0001z7-Ox for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 17:13:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59876) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qawdc-0001yA-Qd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 17:13:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qawda-00006g-UT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 17:13:04 -0400 Original-Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]:43286) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qawda-00006S-K5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 17:13:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [87.198.47.114] (87-198-47-114.ptr.magnet.ie [87.198.47.114]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA rev 3" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4AEB668485 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:13:01 +0100 (IST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110606 Icedove/3.1.10 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 65.99.215.13 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:141015 Archived-At: As a feature freeze is rapidly coming up, I'd like (...for some value of like...) to raise this one more time: I remain concerned it's too hard to revert to "classic" emacs behaviour absent any UI for rebinding beyond "use emacs lisp". Right now, there's a mix of customization variable adjustments and a rebinding involved. It's unlikely that a general customization-type UI for bindings will appear in the immediate future, so I propose for 24 binding mouse-2 back to mouse-yank-at-click but with the addition of boolean customization to control the precise behaviour to allow the desired fd.o-type behaviour. Then one need only adjust customization variables to select between the classic and fd.o-type behaviours, rather than both customization variables and global bindings, which has been a source of confusion and misunderstanding (especially on platforms without a primary). OTOH, if the mouse-2 binding is not reverted to mouse-yank-at-click, then note there are other binding sites that will need adjustment to mouse-yank-primary to match the new binding of mouse-2 for consistency (e.g. the fringes, where mouse-2 still does a mouse-yank-at-click).