From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r103850: update_autogen Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 23:47:40 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <4D9EAF8C.70303@cs.ucla.edu> References: <4D9D45B3.8080502@cs.ucla.edu> <4D9E01BF.5070306@cs.ucla.edu> <4D9E6D1A.1000007@cs.ucla.edu> <87lizlcr8u.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1302245282 26140 80.91.229.12 (8 Apr 2011 06:48:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 06:48:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 08 08:47:58 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q85U5-0000Gn-MP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 08:47:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59432 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q85U5-0001KR-8j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 02:47:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44099 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q85Tx-0001I4-Cc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 02:47:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q85Tw-0005cX-AY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 02:47:49 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:47528) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q85Tv-0005cC-SQ; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 02:47:48 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D1839E80E0; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 23:47:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1WLvBky3KcGC; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 23:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pool-71-189-109-235.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.189.109.235]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 162D139E80B1; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 23:47:46 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Thunderbird/3.1.8 In-Reply-To: <87lizlcr8u.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:138305 Archived-At: On 04/07/2011 09:16 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Paul Eggert writes: > > > But why not use the latest Autoconf version in the cron job? > > I don't see the downside. > > People will depend on the cron job, and neologisms will creep in. (shrug) I don't see that as something requiring us to use old tools when we generate software. If someone inadvertently puts in something that requires Autoconf 2.68, then we can yank it out, just as we yank out code requiring GNU Make 3.82 or GCC 4.6.0 or whatever. Again, for maintainers it's no big deal. I just hope that when we cut tarballs for non-maintainers that we use the better tools.