From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christoph Scholtes Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.python-mode Subject: Re: [Python-mode] python.el cleanup Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 11:45:26 -0600 Message-ID: <4D98B236.40906@gmail.com> References: <86ipv28xk5.fsf@gmail.com> <86pqp971rz.fsf@gmail.com> <4D9339C3.7070104@online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301852744 812 80.91.229.12 (3 Apr 2011 17:45:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:45:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: python-mode@python.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_R=F6hler?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 03 19:45:41 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6RMq-00015d-L9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 19:45:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42740 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q6RMp-0004EO-Q0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 13:45:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=41082 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q6RMi-0004Cu-4n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 13:45:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6RMg-0004ty-R9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 13:45:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:50344) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6RMg-0004tr-MO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 13:45:30 -0400 Original-Received: by iyf13 with SMTP id 13so6818893iyf.0 for ; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:45:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=y33ltTq2Iwcmd38V4OS/XmYCVtMvCYWd1PUulCNWK7w=; b=WjhhAqfCoBCon+gONPwB0FsLYoOfRlpj9EIK1VPU91O8RdqoqIPzB4796sDGqWXUHl BjCf4LrzXvvucQrgur2F/fIgSCGOxZkycBIcoJyiwMtTCw0m4nd8wu+EY7MXveLZbzqd /hQR+H+YT5a5FqvnN0VNjs0A3W2+iBg1Oef78= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UjE0lYYth4QBAefszsLhgwjHFYxQxdKWhj1ov7FMnQIsUNuoO+2BC26AjiCsOyfUee NHtnpzqmmIIVI9SogJO4y8/Km/N+nxoEYMeH8wj70QhxLezw2NfP76D8BtQMsblf55s9 IRz/LEkUpiW9WEBxw2YDzmxkf5IgnGQ7ZlqBg= Original-Received: by 10.43.56.205 with SMTP id wd13mr5499269icb.135.1301852729924; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.4] (71-208-124-23.hlrn.qwest.net [71.208.124.23]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wo11sm2881399icb.20.2011.04.03.10.45.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:45:29 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 In-Reply-To: <4D9339C3.7070104@online.de> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.210.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:138089 gmane.emacs.python-mode:714 Archived-At: Hi Andreas, On 3/30/2011 8:10 AM, Andreas Röhler wrote: > glad to see Emacs python facilities improve. As you mention > python-mode.el, there are some remarks in python.el which I feel are not > correct. If some solution predates historically another, there are > usually some setbacks from being the first. I am not sure which remarks you are referring to here. > OTOH from my perspective python-mode.el has still some point in proceding. I don't think anybody is saying otherwise. > Hopefully we may discuss the pro and cons to the benefit of users, which > flavour they may choose finally. As you might have been remarked, its > interwoven to an extend, you can seldom discern it clearly to the one or > other origin. To me, it really doesn't matter where it originated from or who was first. If it works great, great, if it does not, let's improve it. The goal should be the best Python support for Emacs possible. > BTW I'm not blaming the GNU's side. Just wanted to point at the issue so > we might hopefully reduce the obstacles. Here, I am also not sure what issue or obstacles you are referring to. Christoph