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From: David Reitter <david.reitter@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Hl-line and visual-line
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 19:04:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D3EC595-2FF1-42BC-8DB3-26F3A91501D4@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83ljbanytd.fsf@gnu.org>

On May 23, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
>> The second use case would be to actually capture a whole line.  I have functions that kill the whole line (from left to right).   They would use `kill-region' from X to Y.   The same goes for hl-line-mode, where ONE overlay is drawn.
>> So, these functions would need a new function such as "regions-within-visual-line" or so, returning a list of (from . to) regions, or some other means of identifying the region. 
> 
> Sorry, I don't get this part.  Can you give an example that uses
> kill-region and another one with one overlay for hl-line-mode, and
> explain how the list of the form you mention would help?

Back to your example, buffer text is "abcde ABCDE FGHIJ xyz", displayed with word-wrap as

0) abcde JIHGF
1) EDCBA xyz

Say, point is in line 0, at "c".   Deleting the visual line should delete line 0, which is two portions of text: "abcde" and "FGHIJ".  
My reference to C-k assumed visual-line-mode semantics, as well, so C-k would delete "de" and "FGHIJ".


> Users expect logical-order regions.  Logical-order regions may surprise
> the first time you see it, but are easy to get used to, since that's
> the order you read the text you mark.

Yes, that sounds good.  I was just thinking about how marking a region by mouse would work; I have seen this with bidirectional text in a NS/Cocoa text edit view, and it seems reasonable.  You're probably in a much better position to tell what bidi users would expect.

D


  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-23 23:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-20 20:30 Hl-line and visual-line David Reitter
2010-05-20 21:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-21  2:35   ` David Reitter
2010-05-21  6:34     ` Tassilo Horn
2010-05-21  8:17       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-21 10:16         ` Tassilo Horn
2010-05-21 14:22         ` David Reitter
2010-05-21 14:57           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-23 17:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-23 19:13             ` David Reitter
2010-05-23 20:33               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-23 23:04                 ` David Reitter [this message]
2010-05-24 18:16                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-24 18:46                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-24 19:06                       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-24 22:24                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-24 22:37                           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-24 22:47                             ` David Reitter
2010-05-24 23:03                               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-21 16:54         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-21 17:39           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-21 20:24           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-21 22:31             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-22  0:18               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-22  2:35                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-22 13:10                   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-22 17:04                   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-21  6:36     ` Eli Zaretskii

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