From: David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Djärv <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: mouse-yank-primary and bug #7699
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 15:16:59 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D12166B.8010002@harpegolden.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1PVMZ7-00036R-L9@fencepost.gnu.org>
On 22/12/10 11:09, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> What is still unclear to me (but not entirely relevant to the issue at
> hand in bug #7699) is why do we call x-get-selection at all, when
> x-get-selection-value returns nil?
(Bearing in mind that IMNHO mouse-yank-primary /shouldn't be/ calling
the current w32 x-get-selection-value):
Remember that w32 x-get-selection-value follows the funny
interprogram-paste-function protocol intended for kill-ring interactions
that returns nil if the text has already been got. It _is_ w32's
interprogram-paste-function after all!
So when you click mouse-2 on w32, you presently might get the clipboard,
or you might get the emulated primary, depending on fairly complex
(though deterministic) details of the interaction path leading up to the
mouse-2 click. If you were to remove the call to x-get-selection on w32,
you'd get the clipboard once (probably) and then nowt for subsequent
clicks.
If you were to remove the call to x-get-selection-value that was
inserted, on w32 you should get the emulated primary on all clicks if it
is available, consistent with the function name "mouse-yank-primary",
and bearing in mind it might or might not currently be being updated
properly elsewhere on w32 (I haven't looked recently).
But wait - why does X11 now have and call a function called
x-get-selection-value, then? It was introduced because someone amended
mouse-yank-primary to call the function called x-get-selection-value if
it existed (which at the time it only did on w32/dos), then someone else
decided to fix a bug by reusing the name and call site on x11.
2010-08-14 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
* mouse.el (mouse-yank-primary): Fix mouse-2 on MS-Windows and
MS-DOS. (Bug#6689)
bzr diff -r101079..101080
2010-10-31 Jan Djärv <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
* term/x-win.el (x-get-selection-value): New function that gets
PRIMARY with type as specified in x-select-request-type. (Bug#6802).
bzr diff -r102166..102167
So x11 x-get-selection-value is a function with the same name as one on
w32 but very different behaviour, that always returns the primary value
if available, handling encodings. It is is _not_ X11's
interprogram-paste function (that's x-selection-value, "obviously"...).
So a fallback to x11 x-get-selection if x11 x-get-selection-value
returns nothing on x11 is unnecessary but also fairly harmless in
mouse-yank-primary.
> (I'm asking because my conclusion both from
> reading the X implementation and from your responses, and also from
> discussions archived in bugs #6635 and #6802, is that x-get-selection
> is roughly a limited variant of x-get-selection-value, in that it
> supports less data types. But I'm probably still missing something.)
>
x-get-selection is the (relatively) lowlevel x11-selection-thingy
getting function. Bearing in mind that I'm now talking about x11
selection thingies in general which are used to implement all sorts of
things, including the x11 clipboard and a bunch of other stuff, not just
"the" [primary] selection.
i.e. x-get-selection is a more general lower-level x11-selection-thingy
getting function. x-get-selection-value is a less general higher-level
function that _only_ gets "the" [primary] selection (on x11! on w32 it's
a quite different function bound to the same name!), but handling
certain encoding issues.
You'll find that x11 x-get-selection-value calls x11
x-selection-value-internal calls x11 x-get-selection.
* removal of the x-get-selection-value call from mouse-yank-primary
would _now_ break x11, because of later changes mentioned above, but not
in some hard-to-fix manner.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-22 15:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-21 19:29 mouse-yank-primary and bug #7699 Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-22 1:05 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-12-22 1:38 ` Drew Adams
2010-12-22 3:16 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-12-22 4:18 ` Drew Adams
2010-12-22 11:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-22 15:11 ` Drew Adams
2010-12-22 19:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-22 19:09 ` Drew Adams
2010-12-22 11:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-22 15:16 ` David De La Harpe Golden [this message]
2010-12-22 15:38 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-12-22 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-22 21:37 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-12-23 4:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-22 19:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-22 22:10 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-12-23 4:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-23 7:32 ` Jan D.
2010-12-23 9:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-23 14:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-12-23 16:38 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-12-22 6:47 ` Jan Djärv
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