Re: Obsoleting more progressively

["Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@online.de>]

Am 02.11.2010 16:10, schrieb Stefan Monnier:
> `make-obsolete' and friends are very useful to let us get rid of old
> features, but even after 10 years of something being declared obsolete,
> experience shows it's still in use "out there".
> So I'd like to be able to make things "more obsolete" (i.e. create
> a second level of obsolescence) before we actually remove them.
>
> I can think of 2 ways to do implement that second level of obsolescence:
> - Add warnings at runtime when obsolete stuff is used.
>    for functions, commands and macros, make-obsolete that's reasonably
>    easy to do; for variables it's more difficult.
>    For hooks, we could let add-hook check the obsolescence property and
>    emit a warning, and similarly for a few difference cases, but for
>    the primitive get&set operations, this is not an option.
> - Actually remove the function/variable from the non-released code.
>    I.e. remove/deactivate the functions/variables from trunk during
>    development but put them back in when we start pretesting.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
>          Stefan
>
>

Hi Stefan,

IMHO that would make things more complicated but don't solve the issue.

The issue is to establish a consistent rule what to do with `obsolete' 
marked forms.

As from my limited perspective, it's quite simple:
don't allow them in new code.

Should someone insist, maybe remove `obsolete' again, as it might have 
been an error.

Else remove the forms in old code.
So cure the problem rather than augmenting warnings.

Thanks


Andreas

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