From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Selection changes in revno 100822 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:38:04 +0200 Message-ID: <4C69231C.7090908@swipnet.se> References: <834oeyv3ww.fsf@gnu.org> <87mxsqyp98.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83zkwptyij.fsf@gnu.org> <4C66660D.3090603@swipnet.se> <83sk2htp82.fsf@gnu.org> <4C66A8C5.4040203@harpegolden.net> <83hbixte8c.fsf@gnu.org> <4C66D081.908@harpegolden.net> <838w48u9fg.fsf@gnu.org> <8739ugrniw.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tymvb4uv.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87k4nrqe91.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87k4nrj7u3.fsf@anzu.internal.golden-gryphon.com> <87aaomkiof.fsf@anzu.internal.golden-gryphon.com> <877hjqbxx4.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281958742 31317 80.91.229.12 (16 Aug 2010 11:39:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 11:39:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 16 13:38:59 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oky1p-00035h-MR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:38:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45188 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oky1n-0006eY-RW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 07:38:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43564 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oky1X-0006b5-7Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 07:38:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oky1H-0000OR-Gi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 07:38:29 -0400 Original-Received: from smtprelay-b11.telenor.se ([62.127.194.20]:51904) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oky1E-0000LT-0h; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 07:38:20 -0400 Original-Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (ipb2.telenor.se [195.54.127.165]) by smtprelay-b11.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E61BE8C0B; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:38:18 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.225.45.35] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvcyADPAaExV4S0jPGdsb2JhbACHZ5hZDAEBAQE1LblJhTsE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,375,1278280800"; d="scan'208";a="118919287" Original-Received: from c-232de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.35]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 16 Aug 2010 13:38:05 +0200 Original-Received: from [172.20.199.2] (gaffa [172.20.199.2]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D63B7FA05A; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:38:04 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.0.6 In-Reply-To: <877hjqbxx4.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128801 Archived-At: 2010-08-16 13:27, David Kastrup skrev: > I seem to remember that the clipboard, as opposed to the selection, > required actively transmitting the content at the time of selection. > Since most selections are not going to be pasted (in particular all > temporary selections during something like shift-selection), that is a > performance issue, particularly on non-local X displays. > > The selection, in contrast, needs transmission to the X server only if > it is being pasted. > This is only an issue if you run a clipboard hoarding program like klipper that tries to copy clipboard as soon as a program changes it. > I may be wrong, but I think there is definitely some performance issue > involved with the defaults. > The default (i.e. no klipper) don't really care what the selections are called. They are all treated the same by the X server. You can create your own selections and they will be treated just as PRIMARY/CLIPBOARD/SECONDARY by the X server. The drag and drop protocl Xdnd has its own selection for example. Jan D.