From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_R=F6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The copyright issue Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:04:54 +0200 Message-ID: <4C611636.5050202@online.de> References: <19546.32875.515000.117266@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19549.44879.848292.639521@rgr.rgrjr.com> <19549.49818.270000.981978@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19549.61887.613440.141458@rgr.rgrjr.com> <4C5FE9A9.70101@online.de> <871va66ggl.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281431646 27292 80.91.229.12 (10 Aug 2010 09:14:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:14:06 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 10 11:14:02 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OikuH-0007AR-Ab for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:14:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33280 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OikuG-0006pi-8S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:14:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37871 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oikte-0006V1-ET for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:13:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oikma-0004Rn-7Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:06:05 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.8]:52113) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OikmZ-0004RT-Rc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:06:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.27] (brln-4db9cd99.pool.mediaWays.net [77.185.205.153]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LmPUU-1PIdZ20izC-00ZwSn; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:06:02 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Thunderbird/3.0.6 In-Reply-To: <871va66ggl.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:ddCmiHkoB9iuAqu7F/8X5+AVIfu+TLTNtcEaC3jwiZe npOHyl9Ozfq7B3ORcajB5NE5E5xcwMYJNnJOggj+avWIdASjDW JNFLL7jqN1EgKHRmZ6sMrdpjkezMoI2XhuCNFY7ekM6tmCrFy3 JKCqTdKVx2zidtSnC87kpv0CaLi2MPX898lxlegTZ8FEyAOVYG ZrEmWV+frRc8KRRu448BffNwlTX8Yn5d9Z8tae6E8E= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128536 Archived-At: Am 10.08.2010 10:04, schrieb David Kastrup: > Richard Stallman writes: > > >> The crux is: this policy puts the risk at the weakest shoulders, at the >> contributors. >> >> I cannot tell what you are thinking, because you have >> not stated it clearly. >> > I am not all too sure he has thought it clearly. I seem to remember he > first started his "if you don't change your policies immediately, > everything is doomed" mantra here. In order to escape certain doom, he > moved over to XEmacs and the respective developer lists. After some > initial enthusiasm, he took to telling them that they needed to change > their policies immediately or have XEmacs doomed. It would appear he is > back here again. There are likely more productive ways to spend your > time than convincing him of anything. Yes, I am really bad at following > my own advice. > > Thanks for noticing. > > Don't mix up your head with mine. Just pointed at a wrong decision IMHO. Would be glad, if it's me, who is wrong.