From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Angelo Graziosi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: BZR and the bootstrap Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 11:52:36 +0200 Message-ID: <4C5FCFE4.1070307@alice.it> References: <4C5D8EB2.7090601@alice.it> <83zkwwv6k6.fsf@gnu.org> <878w4g4ftu.fsf@telefonica.net> <874of4l1cp.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <4C5FC305.30102@alice.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281347588 27703 80.91.229.12 (9 Aug 2010 09:53:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 09:53:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D3scar_Fuentes?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 09 11:53:07 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiP2X-0006SL-EZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 11:53:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45075 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OiP2W-0001TY-5J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 05:53:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44429 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OiP2O-0001TS-2g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 05:52:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiP2M-0004gV-Oh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 05:52:55 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp209.alice.it ([82.57.200.105]:40645) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OiP2M-0004gH-Cl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2010 05:52:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [82.57.170.235] (82.57.170.235) by smtp209.alice.it (8.5.124.08) id 4C1A275903387CF0; Mon, 9 Aug 2010 11:52:46 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; it; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 In-Reply-To: <4C5FC305.30102@alice.it> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows 98 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128463 Archived-At: Ok, I have done some experiment. $ bzr checkout http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/r/emacs/trunk emacs-trunk $ bzr checkout --lightweight http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/r/emacs/trunk=20 emacs-light $ rsync -av --exclude=3D.* --delete emacs-trunk/ emacs-stripped-01/ $ rsync -av --exclude=3D.* --delete emacs-light/ emacs-stripped-02/ I get $ du -s emacs-trunk emacs-trunk-light emacs-stripped-01 emacs-stripped-02 337M emacs-trunk 113M emacs-trunk-light 112M emacs-stripped-01 112M emacs-stripped-02 So, which is the best tree for bootstrap? BTW, 'emacs-trunk' has a '.bzr' file of 226 M! Ciao, Angelo. Il 09/08/2010 10.57, Angelo Graziosi ha scritto: > Il 09/08/2010 8.57, Stephen J. Turnbull ha scritto: >> =D3scar Fuentes writes: >> >> > > Nothing bad should happen, because if I'm right, Emacs invokes >> > > "bzr status" which is done entirely locally. >> >> > He says that the modem lights blink, indicating network >> > activity. > > Right! > >> > So it seems that the OP is using a lightweight >> > checkout. > > Wow! Oscar, you have a crystal ball!! Really I did > > $ bzr checkout --lightweight http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/r/emacs/trunk > emacs-trunk > > the first time I used BZR! > >> > If that is true, I wonder what info bzr needs from >> > upstream. > > Indeed... > >> >> Everything. From the help message: >> >> Usage: bzr checkout [BRANCH_LOCATION] [TO_LOCATION] >> >> Options: >> --lightweight Perform a lightweight checkout. Lightweight checkouts >> depend on access to the branch for every operation. >> >> It's penny-wise and pound-foolish for anybody who is unfamiliar with >> Bazaar to use lightweight checkouts. Occasional contributors and beta >> testers should invest in a full branch, bound or not depending on >> their use cases. > > So, what is it the best way to create the development source tree of Em= acs? > > Is, perhaps, the following? > > $ bzr checkout http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/r/emacs/trunk emacs-trunk > > I wonder if there is a way that uses 'rsync', instead, like TeXLive[*].= .. > > Ciao, > Angelo. > > --- > [*] http://www.tug.org/texlive/svn : > > "You can retrieve the entire development source tree via rsync: > rsync -a --delete --exclude=3D.svn tug.org::tldevsrc ."