From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?B?7KGw7ISx67mI?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why are so many great packages not trying to get included in GNU Emacs? Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 16:17:39 +0900 Message-ID: <4BF69E09-0C29-4E3C-84A3-8123BAF65F09@icloud.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="26589"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Richard Stallman , eric@ericabrahamsen.net, ndame@protonmail.com, casouri@gmail.com, Emacs-devel@gnu.org, Phillip Lord To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 07 09:18:24 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jWanY-0006pA-3E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 May 2020 09:18:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51046 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWanX-0005wX-5t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 May 2020 03:18:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33090) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWamw-0005Wi-LG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2020 03:17:46 -0400 Original-Received: from pv50p00im-zteg10021401.me.com ([17.58.6.47]:55943) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWamw-0005fO-21 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2020 03:17:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=icloud.com; s=1a1hai; t=1588835862; bh=fA0SBOBb+xqYwekIKwx54iXiIUkETqHhWWGPEqZa6Sc=; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To; b=GhBkcTp4jCkOj407Ivu64Ip9OPEDC7ERc3LE4GB4kBpNgYoXbHIeWo/gIspnXlG81 jymqyY7uSlkjk2HHMmsYZtAKQomOcKotbwNQZxsUVcHP5kbKHxOfEf3rAcE5hFYq54 87vXfOKBWd5sI6Eez8DKOU2DlaaGj7cv9ZCvhc8jiyzq2dYyIseEW9Ec+K3H632iWi qzK+4D4N2zM3+MtFgAwSbgXBb8ldXJ04TV0la1K3TE00BLmoTKqvg9Blort7Xm9j9D dlJ7guHQUufQuvoy8AtPf0d7A9SuBpoRGilBR4UOxC8Al0bzCFw52GEpAc8cMwzIww 0LfUcEgqgtkGw== Original-Received: from [192.168.0.3] (unknown [1.230.108.64]) by pv50p00im-zteg10021401.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 64F324802E3; Thu, 7 May 2020 07:17:42 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17E262) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.216, 18.0.676 definitions=2020-05-07_04:2020-05-05, 2020-05-07 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=569 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-2002250000 definitions=main-2005070058 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=17.58.6.47; envelope-from=pcr910303@icloud.com; helo=pv50p00im-zteg10021401.me.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/07 03:17:43 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FROM_EXCESS_BASE64=0.979, KHOP_DYNAMIC=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249153 Archived-At: > 2020. 5. 7. =EC=98=A4=ED=9B=84 12:34, Stefan Monnier =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1: >=20 >> It is not terrible lot of work for people to deal with those issues, >> but I wouldn't assume a simple program can. >=20 > The better option is to stop requiring copyright paperwork. > It is harmful to the Emacs project. Thank you so much for saying this, it=E2=80=99s actively harmful and really t= he only reason why MELPA is a thing. > Stefan