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From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>, Ken Hori <fplemma@gmail.com>,
	Emacs <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Window configurations
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 10:22:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BE27C33.8000801@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvvdb2nri0.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

 > Interesting problem in itself, indeed.  Luckily, I'm satisfied with the
 > each area for that purpose.  Good luck!

The echo area sucks for two reasons: When you have windows above each
other and work in the upper one, your eyes have to continuously pass
through the lower window down to the echo area.  What's worse, however,
is that the eldoc message obscures all sorts of other messages which is
particularly annoying when you want to read them during debugging.

 > I know you think dedicated windows suck and that I like them so much
 > that "when you have a hammer everything looks like a nail", but I think
 > this is really a good case to mark the window dedicated.  I'm not sure
 > whether set-window-configuration would do the right thing currently
 > (kill the window if the buffer died), but if it doesn't, it'd be
 > a clear bug that needs fixing.

I don't think that dedicated windows suck and even went so far as to
give them an entire section in the Elisp manual ;-)

On the average, 50% of my windows are dedicated and they suit my needs
well.  So I think that hardly anyone out there uses dedicated windows
more than me.  And my eldoc-windows are obviously dedicated - they would
not be usable otherwise.

Having `set-window-configuration' "kill the window if the buffer died"
is not entirely trivial though.  What shall we do when the last window
has a deleted buffer?  Kill the frame?

martin




  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-06  8:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 221+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-01 16:52 Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-01 17:45 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-01 18:03   ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-01 20:18     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02  7:10       ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-01 20:51   ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-02  6:49     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02  9:21       ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-02  2:06   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-02  7:00     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02  6:53 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02  9:59   ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-02 15:10     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02 16:55       ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-05  8:50       ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-10 12:44         ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 17:34           ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-10 18:03             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 22:09               ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-11  5:45                 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11  8:16                   ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-11 10:52                     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11 17:28                       ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-11 18:33                         ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-21  8:55                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-21  9:46                           ` David Kastrup
2010-04-21 15:43                             ` Juri Linkov
     [not found]                               ` <jwv633k4rn2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2010-04-22  8:16                                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-22 15:08                                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-23  8:33                                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-21 13:54                           ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-21 15:45                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-21 16:04                             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-22  8:14                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-22 16:20                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-04-24 18:45                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-23 16:53                             ` Drew Adams
2010-04-23 18:02                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-23 18:28                                 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-24  9:17                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-24 14:41                                     ` Drew Adams
2010-04-24 18:49                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-24 19:24                                         ` Drew Adams
2010-04-25  5:36                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-25  9:15                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-04-25 18:33                                               ` Window configurations (was: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch) Juri Linkov
2010-04-26 16:16                                                 ` Window configurations martin rudalics
2010-04-27  8:54                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-27 12:54                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-04-27 18:03                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-27 19:47                                                         ` Info buffers in Desktop Juri Linkov
2010-04-28  7:12                                                         ` Window configurations martin rudalics
2010-04-28  8:27                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-27 19:55                                                   ` Davis Herring
2010-04-28  7:12                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-04-28 14:50                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-28  8:35                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-28 14:15                                                       ` Davis Herring
2010-05-07 18:14                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-30  3:19                                                 ` Window configurations (was: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch) Ken Hori
2010-04-30 20:33                                                   ` Window configurations Stefan Monnier
2010-05-02 20:31                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-02 23:34                                                       ` Drew Adams
2010-05-03  0:50                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-03  0:57                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-03  2:50                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-04 16:09                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-05  6:41                                                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-05-05 13:22                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-05 14:35                                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-05-05 21:59                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-02 20:28                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-03  3:31                                                     ` Ken Hori
2010-05-04 16:12                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-05  9:19                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-05-05 18:05                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-06  8:21                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-05-06 20:47                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-10 19:16                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-11  7:01                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-11 16:45                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-12  9:29                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-05-13 22:46                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-14  6:59                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-05-16 22:51                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-17  9:06                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-05-17 22:54                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-18 12:07                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-31 17:28                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-05-31 18:39                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-31 19:12                                                                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-31 20:23                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-01  9:24                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2010-05-31 20:19                                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-01  3:13                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-01  9:25                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-01 12:58                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-01  9:24                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-01 13:08                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-01 14:02                                                                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-01 16:04                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-01 19:20                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-02 12:59                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-06-02 14:08                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-03  8:55                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-06-01 19:54                                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-02 13:00                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-06-02 19:46                                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-03  8:55                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-06-03 18:55                                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-14 17:05                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-06-14 21:54                                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-15  7:08                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-06-15 21:31                                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-16 17:25                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-16 20:51                                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-17  7:58                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-17  8:42                                                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-17 10:20                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-06-17 20:38                                                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-17 22:55                                                                                                             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-18  6:34                                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-06-18  8:28                                                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-18  9:04                                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-19  8:50                                                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-19 13:47                                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-19 14:12                                                                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-19 18:56                                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-06-01 19:51                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-02 13:00                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-02 19:49                                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-03  8:57                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-06-03 14:22                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-03 15:42                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-06-04 13:11                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-04 14:07                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-04 16:59                                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-05 12:49                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-04 10:36                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2010-06-04 14:06                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2010-06-03 18:54                                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-04  8:11                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-06-04 16:57                                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-05 12:49                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-05 19:47                                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-06 13:21                                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-07 18:31                                                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-03 18:52                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-04  8:11                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-04 17:09                                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-05 12:49                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-06-05 19:49                                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-05 21:58                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-07 18:30                                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-06 10:38                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-06-07  1:12                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-07 13:40                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-07 15:36                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-07 17:38                                                                                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-08 13:06                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-08 20:19                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-11 13:20                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-06-11 13:52                                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-11 17:12                                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-05-05 18:19                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-06  8:22                                                             ` martin rudalics [this message]
2010-05-06 13:04                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-06 14:59                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-06 16:17                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-08  3:09                                                           ` Kevin Rodgers
2010-05-08 13:54                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-05-08 15:42                                                               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-09 14:01                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-09 14:21                                                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-09 15:01                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-29  9:01                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-29  9:23                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-29 10:01                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-29 10:37                                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-06-29 12:16                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-06-29 20:14                                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-06-29 20:01                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-30  6:35                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-30  8:12                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-10 19:19             ` Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch Stefan Monnier
2010-04-02 16:19     ` Uwe Siart
2010-04-02 18:31       ` Daniel Colascione
2010-04-02 20:38         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-03  6:29         ` Uwe Siart
2010-04-03  9:07           ` Uwe Siart
2010-04-02  6:53 ` Uwe Siart
2010-04-02  7:25   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-04 11:01     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-02 12:19   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-05-05 13:31 Window configurations grischka
2010-05-05 18:10 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-05 19:47   ` grischka
2010-05-05 20:07 ` Drew Adams
2010-05-06 11:18 grischka
2010-05-11 13:54 grischka
2010-05-12  9:28 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-12 11:12   ` grischka
2010-05-12 13:03     ` martin rudalics
2010-05-12 18:33       ` grischka
2010-05-13 10:22         ` martin rudalics
2010-05-13 11:40           ` grischka
2010-05-13 13:53             ` martin rudalics
2010-05-13 17:13               ` grischka
2010-05-13 22:57                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-14  6:58                 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-14 10:42                   ` grischka
2010-05-14 11:45                     ` martin rudalics
2010-05-14 13:32                       ` grischka
2010-05-13 22:54             ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-14 11:12               ` grischka
2010-05-14 11:45                 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-16 22:49               ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-17  9:06                 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-17 22:48                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-13 22:48   ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-14  7:00     ` martin rudalics

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