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From: David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: "'Lennart Borgman'" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>,
	"'Stefan Monnier'" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Djärv' <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>,
	"'Emacs-Devel devel'" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Add function to make frame topmost?
Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 16:27:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BDD99DC.2040901@harpegolden.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <88A13318710742A89D64A4F416461969@us.oracle.com>

Drew Adams wrote:

> Not to divert the discussion from your patch, but wouldn't we anyway need
> something like what bug #4476 suggests in order to save & restore frame configs?
> If we are intending to be let users persistently save the state of their windows
> and frames, then won't we need to record and restore (or at least request
> restoration of) the fine-grained stacking order/z-order?


Maybe. Apart from leaving the z-order alone:

One could try to restore something as close as possible to a saved 
absolute z-order, but users might be surprised by that since  non-emacs 
windows may well have come and gone in the meantime, and it would mean 
restoring a frame configuration might bury and interleave frames behind 
non-emacs windows. It might all seem a bit random.

Restoring the relative z-order of emacs frames, but restoring them
contiguous in the stack and maybe at the top (not always-on-top, I just 
mean in front) on restoration, might be a better option. Except when the 
user is saving and restoring in rapid succession in the one session, as 
I imagine most people's typical use of 
frame-configuration-to-register/jump-to-register is. Then it might be 
the surprising/annoyingly-raisey option, and leaving
the z-order as-is might be best.

Or could punt and make it an option as to which of the three happens
and/or which of the three happens in which context (same-session
set-frame-configuration from a "live" frame configuration object
vs. from a deserialized "undead" frame configuration object)

Probably need coding up and testing for a real assessment.






  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-02 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-30  1:48 Add function to make frame topmost? Lennart Borgman
2010-04-30 13:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-30 13:26   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-30 20:54     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-30 22:02       ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-30 22:13         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-01  8:00           ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-30 22:32       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-30 23:22         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-01  1:48           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-05-01  2:06             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-01 13:05               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-01 18:03                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-05-01 20:20                   ` Drew Adams
2010-05-01 22:02                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-05-01 22:09                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-05-02 14:07                       ` Drew Adams
2010-05-02 15:27                         ` David De La Harpe Golden [this message]
2010-05-02 15:58                           ` stack-order (z-order) parameter for frames [was: Add function to make frame topmost?] Drew Adams
2010-05-01 22:44                   ` Add function to make frame topmost? Lennart Borgman
2010-05-02  1:18                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-05-02  7:47                       ` Jan Djärv
2010-05-02 12:52                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-05-02  7:27                     ` Jan Djärv
2010-05-02 12:27                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-05-02 12:53                         ` Jan Djärv
2010-05-02 13:44                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-05-03  3:16                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-05-02 14:43                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-05-02 14:48                           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-02 14:55                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-05-02 16:48                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-05-02 18:58                           ` Jan Djärv
2010-05-02 21:32                             ` Desktop bubble notifications [Was: Re: Add function to make frame topmost?] David De La Harpe Golden
2010-05-03  0:19                               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-03  2:29                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-05-03 19:46                                   ` Stephen Eilert
2010-05-03 19:58                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-04 11:48                               ` Desktop bubble notifications Bastien
2010-05-02 19:17                         ` Add function to make frame topmost? chad
2010-05-03  3:33                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-05-02 14:01                       ` Drew Adams
2010-05-02 15:06                         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-03  3:43                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-05-03  9:59                             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-03 17:21                               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-03 19:50                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-03 21:31                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-05-02  0:36                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-02  1:17                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-05-01  2:10           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-05-01  2:32             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-01  3:49               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-03 16:39             ` Tom Tromey
2010-05-03 19:33               ` systray support [was: Re: Add function to make frame topmost?] Dan Nicolaescu
2010-05-01  3:19           ` Add function to make frame topmost? David De La Harpe Golden
2010-05-01  8:28           ` Jan Djärv
2010-05-01 19:46             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-05-01 22:46               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-01  5:25     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-05-03 12:47 ` Lennart Borgman

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