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From: "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: "Emacs Dev \[emacs-devel\]" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch.
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:51:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BC011F5.9010505@swipnet.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvaatc5cl3.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>



Stefan Monnier skrev 2010-04-10 03.22:
>> It isn't any "idea" as such, it is practicallity and user experience. For
>> example, I tried having switching in elisp, but it is too slow (causes
>> flicker) and there are race conditions between when the widget does the
>> switching and when Emacs thinks the switch is done.
>
>> There is nothing in the current implementation that excludes lisp
>> functions for switching, creation, e.t.c, but it doesn't give any
>> advantages, just complications.
>
> Tabs may seem like a good idea to switch between different
> window-configurations, but there can actually be other uses for it.
> And even for that use, there can be different choices in terms of which
> tabs to show, ...
> All that needs to be written in Lisp.

I'm not a big fan for making things general just for the sake of making things 
general so we maybe in the future can add something we don't know what it is now.

Are there any concrete examples of other uses?  I still think window 
configurations are the "natural" thing, as this is how tabs are used in web 
browsers, other editors, IDE:s and so on.  That doesn't mean that tabs must be 
exclusively about window configurations.  The implementation can easily be 
made to do tabs also for "other" lisp-based uses.  But implementation for the 
primary use case (window configurations) should not have to suffer because of 
other uses.

But I still haven't seen any example of other uses, so I haven't made gtk-tabs 
for that.

	Jan D.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-10  5:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 154+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-09  9:47 Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch A. Soare
2010-04-09 11:15 ` Jan D.
2010-04-10  1:22   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-10  1:36     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-10  6:12       ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11  1:16         ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-11 12:50           ` Tobias C. Rittweiler
2010-04-11 15:40             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-11 15:28           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-11 16:05             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-11 18:32               ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-12 23:47                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-13  3:50                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-13  5:29                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-13 13:05                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-13 23:34                         ` Header windows (was: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch.) Juri Linkov
2010-04-14  5:03                         ` Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch Richard Stallman
2010-04-14 14:30                           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-13  6:53                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-13 12:28                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-13  5:53                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-13 12:30                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-13 20:54                       ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-21 16:58                       ` Text in Gtk tool bar. (Was: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch.) Jan Djärv
2010-04-23  8:35                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-23  9:33                           ` Jan D.
2010-04-23 16:46                             ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-23 17:47                               ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11 18:09             ` Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch Drew Adams
2010-04-12 23:45             ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-13  2:42               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-13  6:29                 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-13 17:59                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-13 18:15                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-13 18:44                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-10  1:47     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-10  2:19       ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-10  6:15       ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10  9:14         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-10  9:46           ` joakim
2010-04-10 10:18             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-10 11:01               ` joakim
2010-04-10 12:38               ` Štěpán Němec
2010-04-10 14:58               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-10 10:58             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 12:09               ` joakim
2010-04-11  1:18             ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-10 10:52           ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10  5:51     ` Jan Djärv [this message]
2010-04-10 15:19       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-10 15:33         ` Chong Yidong
2010-04-10 18:51           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-10 16:10         ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 16:40           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-10 17:06             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 16:42           ` Davis Herring
2010-04-10 17:11             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 17:16               ` Davis Herring
2010-04-10 17:54                 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 18:44                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-10 19:14                     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 19:51                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-10 21:12                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-11 10:56                         ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11 15:09                           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-10 19:00           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-10 19:07             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 19:56               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-12 16:14         ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-12 19:18           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-12 20:22             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-12 21:02               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-13 15:08         ` René Kyllingstad
2010-04-10 16:06       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-11 12:11       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-11 18:09         ` Drew Adams
2010-04-12 23:49           ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-13  2:58             ` Drew Adams
2010-04-13  4:11               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-13 16:15                 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-14 10:30                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-04-13 19:53 grischka
2010-04-10 17:33 A. Soare
2010-04-09 13:33 A. Soare
2010-04-01 16:52 Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-01 17:45 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-01 18:03   ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-01 20:18     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02  7:10       ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-01 20:51   ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-02  6:49     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02  9:21       ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-02  2:06   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-02  7:00     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02  6:53 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02  9:59   ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-02 15:10     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02 16:55       ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-05  8:50       ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-10 12:44         ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 17:34           ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-10 18:03             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 22:09               ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-11  5:45                 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11  8:16                   ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-11 10:52                     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11 17:28                       ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-11 18:33                         ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-21  8:55                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-21  9:46                           ` David Kastrup
2010-04-21 15:43                             ` Juri Linkov
     [not found]                               ` <jwv633k4rn2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2010-04-22  8:16                                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-22 15:08                                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-23  8:33                                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-21 13:54                           ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-21 15:45                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-21 16:04                             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-22  8:14                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-22 16:20                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-04-24 18:45                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-23 16:53                             ` Drew Adams
2010-04-23 18:02                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-23 18:28                                 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-24  9:17                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-24 14:41                                     ` Drew Adams
2010-04-24 18:49                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-24 19:24                                         ` Drew Adams
2010-04-25  5:36                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-25  9:15                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-04-10 19:19             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-02 16:19     ` Uwe Siart
2010-04-02 18:31       ` Daniel Colascione
2010-04-02 20:38         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-03  6:29         ` Uwe Siart
2010-04-03  9:07           ` Uwe Siart
2010-04-02  6:53 ` Uwe Siart
2010-04-02  7:25   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-04 11:01     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-02 12:19   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-01 13:07 Jan Djärv
2010-04-01 13:24 ` Leo
2010-04-01 18:02 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-01 20:13   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-09 23:27     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-09 23:54       ` Drew Adams
2010-04-10  0:17         ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-10  2:56       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-04-11  1:06         ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-01 18:50 ` Chong Yidong
2010-04-01 20:08   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-01 20:09   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-01 21:53   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-09  7:23 ` alin.s
2010-04-09  9:34   ` Jan D.

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