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From: Daniel Colascione <daniel@censorshipresearch.org>
To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: Chad Brown <yandros@MIT.EDU>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Obsoleting end-user-functions [was: turn-on-* type functions]
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 23:11:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BB954E9.7050805@censorshipresearch.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r5mupr6l.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>

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On 4/4/10 10:29 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Stefan Monnier writes:
> A harder, invasive idea: get rid of explicit byte-compilation, by
> default.  If Emacs always byte-compiles out-of-date libraries at load
> time, the warnings would be generated.

I've been using byte-code-cache.el for years. It reimplements load in
lisp, byte-compiling files and automatically caching the results. It's a
hack, but it works very well for most things I try with it; to date, the
only things I've seen break with it are tramp and nxhtml, though I
haven't put as much effort as I should have into figuring out _why_ it
breaks.

> Rationale: I don't think I've ever seen a test-suite difference
> between byte-compiled and directly interpreted code in XEmacs, and
> only a few such bugs in beta testing or end use.  Of course in the
> nature of Lisp there may need to be a way to inhibit byte compilation,
> but these days I think it's appropriate to require a flag of some kind
> (command-line option, Lisp variable) to inhibit.

For a long time, SBCL got by very well without an interpreter. It only
recently grew one to deal with some special cases.
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-05  3:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-03  1:23 turn-on-bug-reference-mode, turn-on-bug-reference-prog-mode type functions Dan Nicolaescu
2010-04-03  2:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-03 18:00 ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-03 18:17   ` Davis Herring
2010-04-03 19:43     ` Chad Brown
2010-04-04 14:26       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-04 16:19         ` Chad Brown
2010-04-04 18:53           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-05  2:29             ` Obsoleting end-user-functions [was: turn-on-* type functions] Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-05  3:11               ` Daniel Colascione [this message]
2010-04-05  7:19                 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-06  6:41                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-05 13:48               ` Obsoleting end-user-functions Stefan Monnier
2010-04-05 14:03                 ` Davis Herring
2010-04-05 15:52                 ` Chad Brown
2010-04-06  6:48                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-07  3:21                   ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-04 17:36       ` turn-on-bug-reference-mode, turn-on-bug-reference-prog-mode type functions Richard Stallman
2010-04-03 19:23   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-04-03 19:23   ` Stefan Monnier

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