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From: David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: shouldn't `delete-blank-lines' treat form-feed as whitespace?
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:35:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B8ED635.7010102@harpegolden.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CB6D99021EF440EAB10FFDB2740FE8B@us.oracle.com>

Drew Adams wrote:
> `delete-blank-lines' treats SPC, TAB, and newline as whitespace.
> Shouldn't it also treat form-feed (aka \f, aka ^L) as whitespace?
> 


While it's logically formally a whitespace class character, I'm quite 
unconvinced it would "feel right" to me.   formfeed is usually put in 
much more rarely and with more forethought than space/tab/newline.

It's also not "blank" in one possibly important sense: in emacs 
"out-of-box" it shows up as a quite visible "^L", whereas 
SPC/TAB/newline are invisible unless you turn on whitespace.

So delete-blank-lines would end up deleting lines, that from a naive 
viewpoint, look like they "have something on them".

Imagine you've got a text file with "page breaks" in it (represented as 
formfeeds as is/was the convention (see "C-x [" / "C-x ]" !)):

^L
alpha
bravo
charlie[]



            	


^L
delta
epsilon


Say I hit C-x C-o where the point [] is. I wouldn't just delete those 
stray blank lines on the first page, I'd suddenly merge two pages.
So I strongly suspect changing it would annoy people who still sprinkle 
^L through their code or other files for pagination.  Something I guess
I personally don't do so much anymore (got a laser printer not a dot 
matrix...), but anyway.






  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-03 21:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-28 20:44 shouldn't `delete-blank-lines' treat form-feed as whitespace? Drew Adams
2010-03-03 19:32 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-03 19:54   ` Drew Adams
2010-03-04  4:28     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-05  8:48       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-06 17:57         ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-06 18:56           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-03 21:35 ` David De La Harpe Golden [this message]
2010-03-03 22:21   ` Drew Adams
2010-03-04  1:40   ` Miles Bader
2010-03-04  6:21     ` Drew Adams
     [not found] <E1No0yT-0007vs-HZ@mail.fsf.org>
2010-03-06 22:34 ` Jonathan Yavner
2010-03-07  4:14   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-07  4:34     ` Jonathan Yavner
2010-03-07 17:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-07 18:11       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-07  5:08     ` Stephen J. Turnbull

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