From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David De La Harpe Golden Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Next pretest Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 16:34:58 +0000 Message-ID: <4B5C76B2.5080702@harpegolden.net> References: <87fx5vef1j.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <27296016.post@talk.nabble.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1264351021 6098 80.91.229.12 (24 Jan 2010 16:37:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 16:37:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "alin.s" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 24 17:36:53 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NZ5SG-0006zd-Aw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:36:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34924 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NZ5SH-0001Cl-0u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:36:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NZ5Qa-0000di-Cj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:35:08 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NZ5QV-0000Zh-MX for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:35:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54076 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NZ5QV-0000ZY-DT for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:35:03 -0500 Original-Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]:55872) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NZ5QV-0006L4-Ge for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:35:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [87.198.54.204] (87-198-54-204.ptr.magnet.ie [87.198.54.204]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA rev 3" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433728A20; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 16:35:00 +0000 (GMT) User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20091109) In-Reply-To: <27296016.post@talk.nabble.com> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:120325 Archived-At: alin.s wrote: > > Tabs are also ready. For the console it's completely finished; for GTK I > have to make the latests modifications. For Lesstif and Athena I just found > some notebook widgets, and have to learn how to use them. > Um. What sort of tabs? Last time I tuned in (some time ago), people had very different ideas about how tabs should work. For my part, I presently have a half-formed notion they should be another dimension for emacs window splitting along with horizontal and vertical, and therefore an aspect of window configurations. Notably, I don't have any working code though. Another option which I looked into at one stage was toplevel-only tabs that collected and switched between whole emacs frames. i.e. tabs "outside" frames. The gtk+ notebook container widget model was particular suitable for that approach IIRC, as it was sort of emulating a tabbed window manager internal to gtk+, and gave you drag-drop and rearrangement for "free", but I eventually thought the window splitting model was more emacsy and general. The one thing I really don't like is the idea of tabs-as-list-of-buffers - simply doesn't scale well to even my typical open buffer count (10s rather than 100s.), and is a waste of what could be a more versatile ui feature for the likes of IDE-type modes. Or maybe you meant buffer-embedded emacs tab/notebook widgets, an entirely different matter and independent of the other kind of tabbing.