From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Basic Bazaar guide for Emacs hackers. Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:34:04 +0800 Message-ID: <4B14D4FC.8070509@gnu.org> References: <87skbzblp5.fsf@telefonica.net> <87y6log42q.fsf@red-bean.com> <87y6lo8zgi.fsf@telefonica.net> <87638sy5ab.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tywc8u7t.fsf@telefonica.net> <87k4x76wpp.fsf@telefonica.net> <8e0e71cb0911302252v6a7c9f80j532308eb0a842816@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259656593 22289 80.91.229.12 (1 Dec 2009 08:36:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D3scar_Fuentes?= , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 01 09:36:24 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NFODc-0003f0-Bq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:36:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32865 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NFODb-0000sH-SY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:36:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NFOCV-0000c2-Lf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:35:11 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NFOCR-0000Ze-RN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:35:11 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55090 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NFOCR-0000ZZ-Jh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:35:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-yw0-f172.google.com ([209.85.211.172]:34103) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NFOCM-0002Lp-Ug; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:35:03 -0500 Original-Received: by ywh2 with SMTP id 2so4207387ywh.27 for ; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:35:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0S4j9e5Afcg4QJuif95iD9fhX9uddhCmcCy0MFiwifw=; b=sIqU8+61ce8pkvz0/uEts9BwPExhSldTE1wgGOgRzFM1d1L+2mF/1cvse9/u7NGq4A oYQDiVatSx+xS/R2Q6nIC8hQWU28Tw06rp/GcO885y2njGcUhrCjdArn8xVm5BhlZC0X fpagDC1vV5uW3EEuVHUvX3fCXnCO8WHWDBHpA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eMClkjzA4wv3HV/fk3iiJeeJggE8L/gNQNMfE+j/CVYA8LGFw2BzDwSxwTuB16LfoQ h8vMs5r45PKP5ohZ5ytun/vGJ8JIqYuJkdfLhjKtxV+XeKFoh8qVxCMdzcR0lT6m5JnD J9nJP3b+I9/aQ8WC8Yjb2G6Y/eSNrHRHx4Px8= Original-Received: by 10.151.95.8 with SMTP id x8mr8590009ybl.26.1259656501468; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:35:01 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from ?10.1.1.112? ([61.4.103.130]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm1946499ywh.47.2009.12.01.00.34.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:34:59 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) In-Reply-To: <8e0e71cb0911302252v6a7c9f80j532308eb0a842816@mail.gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:118027 Archived-At: Karl Fogel wrote: > I don't think there's anything objectively wrong with someone > choosing the non-distributed workflow. My concern is simply that > the Emacs project be able to clearly and unambiguously answer > the question "How do I hack on Emacs?" > While the distributed workflow might be a better approach for people starting with a clean slate, existing developers (and users who track CVS) do not necessarily have the time to invest in learning a new workflow immediately, and are looking for minimum disruption immediately after the switch from CVS to bzr. So there is definite value in an additional document describing a quick and painless transition from CVS, and probably a migration path to the distributed workflow for when the developer has time to adjust their habits.