From: grischka <grishka@gmx.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@m17n.org
Subject: Re: Case mapping of sharp s
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:25:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B05D3EE.2000101@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvskcai43z.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> Actually I think there is something simply wrong with the simple
>> search, as it's much slower even for single chars (where bm doesn't
>> have any advantage) and additionally in some weird random fashion
>> it's again slower for backwards search, such as 14, 37, 66 ... 94
>> secs, where the bm takes 0.5 secs and simple forward constantly
>> ~3.7 secs, all for isearch'ing one character in a 100Mb file.
>
> I can guess why it's much slower going backward: the simple search
> operates on chars rather than bytes. The internal encoding we use
> (currently based on utf-8) is designed to be easy to parse going forward
> but not so easy going backward (IIRC our encoding is actually even a bit
> more painful in this case than pure utf-8). BM on the other hand works
> on bytes, so there's no such slowdown.
Okay, it's utf-8 (aka multibyte I suppose) however I was using
the same buffer in both cases (just a different search string).
So whatever makes it more difficult to scan backwards the same
situation exists for bm too. Also how can it happen that a C
function varies between 4 and 90 seconds for the same action.
> As for the general slowdown, it may also be due to having to parse the
> char (encoded in utf-8) and then look it up in the corresponding char table
> (a tree of arrays).
From what I saw the simple_search() calls out to lisp for every
single buffer-byte whereas boyer_moore() just translates it
with a prefabricated C table.
However if simple_search just would prepare the first char of
the pattern in both lower and uppercase version readily for
comparison it could be as fast as bm I guess (for a pattern
length of less than 4 that is)
--- grischka
>
> But maybe we're doing something silly somewhere.
>
>
> Stefan
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-19 23:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-19 19:48 Case mapping of sharp s grischka
2009-11-19 21:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-19 22:43 ` David Kastrup
2009-11-20 2:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20 8:03 ` David Kastrup
2009-11-20 14:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20 3:41 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-20 4:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20 7:13 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21 0:02 ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-21 12:39 ` David Kastrup
2009-11-21 17:40 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-22 2:58 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-22 4:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-22 8:27 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-23 1:30 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-21 22:52 ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-20 8:10 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-20 11:46 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-20 14:43 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-21 4:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-19 23:25 ` grischka [this message]
2009-11-20 2:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-21 3:08 ` grischka
2009-11-21 8:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 9:33 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-21 11:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 15:33 ` grischka
2009-11-21 10:41 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-21 11:58 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-21 17:01 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-22 12:11 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-22 20:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-24 12:26 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-24 19:23 ` grischka
2009-11-25 2:13 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-26 13:07 ` grischka
2009-11-29 22:03 ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-30 1:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-30 1:28 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-30 1:36 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-30 7:01 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-30 12:01 ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-30 13:09 ` martin rudalics
2009-11-30 21:57 ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-30 22:34 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-12-01 0:02 ` Juri Linkov
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-15 14:29 Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-16 12:06 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-16 16:38 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-17 7:36 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-17 21:23 ` Reiner Steib
2009-11-16 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-17 7:43 ` martin rudalics
2009-11-17 7:49 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-17 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-18 1:00 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-18 4:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-18 5:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-18 6:26 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-18 14:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-18 19:05 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-19 1:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-18 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-19 1:57 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
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