From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Compressing the Lisp and Info files in the MS-Windows installation Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:13:14 -0700 Message-ID: <4ACDB1853730452BA136101AAAA5B3D1@us.oracle.com> References: <83txn76cj0.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1366056804 28112 80.91.229.3 (15 Apr 2013 20:13:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 20:13:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Stefan Monnier'" , "'Eli Zaretskii'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 15 22:13:28 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1URpmI-00043A-Ep for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 22:13:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44818 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1URpmH-0002mN-LR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:13:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37799) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1URpmD-0002jS-C5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:13:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1URpmC-00020V-Cb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:13:21 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:23620) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1URpmB-00020G-0g; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:13:19 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r3FKDGeY017507 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 15 Apr 2013 20:13:17 GMT Original-Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r3FKDGxY002901 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 15 Apr 2013 20:13:16 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt117.oracle.com (abhmt117.oracle.com [141.146.116.69]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r3FKDFbR012721; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 20:13:15 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.8) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:13:15 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac46FDHT2oHtidAXT+GIjTSgi3yEggAAJeAQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158936 Archived-At: > > A related issue is whether the precompiled Windows binaries > > should be distributed with these files compressed. If they are > > compressed, end users will need to have 'gzip' installed to > > be able to use them. > > AFAIK that's the main issue. Can we expect the vast majority of > Emacs-on-Windows users to have gzip installed? > AFAIK the working hypothesis until now was "no". And even if they have gzip, some users will likely want to unzip all of the .el so that they can more easily grep etc. Is the gain from compression worth making them go through that extra step? Even though Emacs is bigger now than in the past, I would think that size (download & disk) is generally less of a problem nowadays than it used to be.