* frame auto-unmaximized
@ 2009-07-06 14:33 Sam Steingold
2009-07-06 15:00 ` Jan Djärv
2009-07-07 8:50 ` Jan Djärv
0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Sam Steingold @ 2009-07-06 14:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
with the current cvs head under gnome:
emacs -q
click on the "maximize" button (upper right corner, 2nd from right).
the emacs frame is maximized.
C-M-<right> to go to the next workspace
C-M-<left> to go back to the emacs workspace
observe that the emacs frame is no longer maximized.
I hope this is not the intended behavior!
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* Re: frame auto-unmaximized
2009-07-06 14:33 frame auto-unmaximized Sam Steingold
@ 2009-07-06 15:00 ` Jan Djärv
2009-07-06 15:37 ` Sebastian Rose
` (2 more replies)
2009-07-07 8:50 ` Jan Djärv
1 sibling, 3 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Jan Djärv @ 2009-07-06 15:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sam Steingold; +Cc: emacs-devel
Sam Steingold skrev:
> with the current cvs head under gnome:
> emacs -q
> click on the "maximize" button (upper right corner, 2nd from right).
> the emacs frame is maximized.
> C-M-<right> to go to the next workspace
> C-M-<left> to go back to the emacs workspace
> observe that the emacs frame is no longer maximized.
> I hope this is not the intended behavior!
>
No, it sounds like a bug. Are you using metacity or something else (compiz
perhaps)?
Jan D.
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2009-07-06 15:00 ` Jan Djärv
@ 2009-07-06 15:37 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-07-06 16:05 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-07-06 16:11 ` Sam Steingold
2009-07-07 6:03 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Rose @ 2009-07-06 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jan Djärv; +Cc: Sam Steingold, emacs-devel
Jan Djärv <jan.h.d@swipnet.se> writes:
> Sam Steingold skrev:
>> with the current cvs head under gnome:
>> emacs -q
>> click on the "maximize" button (upper right corner, 2nd from right).
>> the emacs frame is maximized.
>> C-M-<right> to go to the next workspace
>> C-M-<left> to go back to the emacs workspace
>> observe that the emacs frame is no longer maximized.
>> I hope this is not the intended behavior!
Also, the frame doesn't stay in the background (behind other windows) if
switching workspaces.
I've sent two bug-reports about these two issues (sorry, still don't
know how I could link to them here or anywhere. Are they somwhere on the
net?).
Sebastian
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* Re: frame auto-unmaximized
2009-07-06 15:37 ` Sebastian Rose
@ 2009-07-06 16:05 ` Sebastian Rose
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Rose @ 2009-07-06 16:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de> writes:
> Jan Djärv <jan.h.d@swipnet.se> writes:
>> Sam Steingold skrev:
>>> with the current cvs head under gnome:
>>> emacs -q
>>> click on the "maximize" button (upper right corner, 2nd from right).
>>> the emacs frame is maximized.
>>> C-M-<right> to go to the next workspace
>>> C-M-<left> to go back to the emacs workspace
>>> observe that the emacs frame is no longer maximized.
>>> I hope this is not the intended behavior!
>
>
> Also, the frame doesn't stay in the background (behind other windows) if
> switching workspaces.
>
> I've sent two bug-reports about these two issues (sorry, still don't
> know how I could link to them here or anywhere. Are they somwhere on the
> net?).
ah - OK - it's in the reply I got :)
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* Re: frame auto-unmaximized
2009-07-06 15:00 ` Jan Djärv
2009-07-06 15:37 ` Sebastian Rose
@ 2009-07-06 16:11 ` Sam Steingold
2009-07-06 17:09 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-07-07 6:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-07 6:03 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Sam Steingold @ 2009-07-06 16:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jan Djärv; +Cc: emacs-devel
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Jan Djärv<jan.h.d@swipnet.se> wrote:
> Sam Steingold skrev:
>>
>> with the current cvs head under gnome:
>> emacs -q
>> click on the "maximize" button (upper right corner, 2nd from right).
>> the emacs frame is maximized.
>> C-M-<right> to go to the next workspace
>> C-M-<left> to go back to the emacs workspace
>> observe that the emacs frame is no longer maximized.
>> I hope this is not the intended behavior!
>>
>
> No, it sounds like a bug. Are you using metacity or something else (compiz
> perhaps)?
metacity.
this is "CentOS release 5.3 (Final)"
thanks.
--
Sam Steingold <http://sds.podval.org>
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* Re: frame auto-unmaximized
2009-07-06 16:11 ` Sam Steingold
@ 2009-07-06 17:09 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-07-07 6:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Rose @ 2009-07-06 17:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sam Steingold; +Cc: Jan Djärv, emacs-devel
Sam Steingold <sds@gnu.org> writes:
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Jan Djärv<jan.h.d@swipnet.se> wrote:
>> Sam Steingold skrev:
>>>
>>> with the current cvs head under gnome:
>>> emacs -q
>>> click on the "maximize" button (upper right corner, 2nd from right).
>>> the emacs frame is maximized.
>>> C-M-<right> to go to the next workspace
>>> C-M-<left> to go back to the emacs workspace
>>> observe that the emacs frame is no longer maximized.
>>> I hope this is not the intended behavior!
>>>
>>
>> No, it sounds like a bug. Are you using metacity or something else (compiz
>> perhaps)?
>
> metacity.
> this is "CentOS release 5.3 (Final)"
>
> thanks.
Dito. Metacity, Debian testing. Only emacs behaves like this.
Gracias
Sebastian
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* Re: frame auto-unmaximized
2009-07-06 16:11 ` Sam Steingold
2009-07-06 17:09 ` Sebastian Rose
@ 2009-07-07 6:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-07 8:56 ` Jan Djärv
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Stephen J. Turnbull @ 2009-07-07 6:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sam Steingold; +Cc: Jan Djärv, emacs-devel
Sam Steingold writes:
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Jan Djärv<jan.h.d@swipnet.se> wrote:
> > Sam Steingold skrev:
> >>
> >> with the current cvs head under gnome:
> >> emacs -q
> >> click on the "maximize" button (upper right corner, 2nd from right).
> >> the emacs frame is maximized.
> >> C-M-<right> to go to the next workspace
> >> C-M-<left> to go back to the emacs workspace
> >> observe that the emacs frame is no longer maximized.
> >> I hope this is not the intended behavior!
> >>
> >
> > No, it sounds like a bug. Are you using metacity or something else (compiz
> > perhaps)?
>
> metacity.
Metacity doesn't bother to remember that *it* maximized the app (the
app of course has no power to do so), and so happily fullfils a
request from the app to return to its natural size. I forget the
details, but this is a particular behavior of metacity and KDE's
default WM; other WMs do remember that they've maximized the window
and refuse future requests unless they come from the user.
I think it's more in line with user expectations if the WM remembers,
but evidently Havoc thinks differently.
I believe that there is a way for the WM to differentiate between a
request by a program that is obeying an explicit command from the user
to request a window configuration, and a program that is simply making
a request based on widget resources. The WM of course should respect
the former, and ignore the latter if it has its own mandate from the
user. Again I forget the details, but it may be that metacity ignores
this difference.
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* Re: frame auto-unmaximized
2009-07-07 6:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
@ 2009-07-07 8:56 ` Jan Djärv
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Jan Djärv @ 2009-07-07 8:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stephen J. Turnbull; +Cc: Sam Steingold, emacs-devel
Stephen J. Turnbull skrev:
> Sam Steingold writes:
> > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Jan Djärv<jan.h.d@swipnet.se> wrote:
> > > Sam Steingold skrev:
> > >>
> > >> with the current cvs head under gnome:
> > >> emacs -q
> > >> click on the "maximize" button (upper right corner, 2nd from right).
> > >> the emacs frame is maximized.
> > >> C-M-<right> to go to the next workspace
> > >> C-M-<left> to go back to the emacs workspace
> > >> observe that the emacs frame is no longer maximized.
> > >> I hope this is not the intended behavior!
> > >>
> > >
> > > No, it sounds like a bug. Are you using metacity or something else (compiz
> > > perhaps)?
> >
> > metacity.
>
> Metacity doesn't bother to remember that *it* maximized the app (the
> app of course has no power to do so), and so happily fullfils a
> request from the app to return to its natural size. I forget the
> details, but this is a particular behavior of metacity and KDE's
> default WM; other WMs do remember that they've maximized the window
> and refuse future requests unless they come from the user.
>
Indeed. Emacs did request to be unmaximized when switching desktops (that was
the bug). There is some wording in the EMWH-spec about withdrawn windows.
Apparently applications can reuse withdrawn windows for other purposes, so if
the WM remembers the setting, it would be wrong. Not that I know of any
application that reuses withdrawn windows for something else.
Jan D.
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* Re: frame auto-unmaximized
2009-07-06 15:00 ` Jan Djärv
2009-07-06 15:37 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-07-06 16:11 ` Sam Steingold
@ 2009-07-07 6:03 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Giorgos Keramidas @ 2009-07-07 6:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jan Djärv; +Cc: Sam Steingold, emacs-devel
On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:00:36 +0200, Jan Djärv <jan.h.d@swipnet.se> wrote:
> Sam Steingold skrev:
>> with the current cvs head under gnome:
>> emacs -q
>> click on the "maximize" button (upper right corner, 2nd from right).
>> the emacs frame is maximized.
>> C-M-<right> to go to the next workspace
>> C-M-<left> to go back to the emacs workspace
>> observe that the emacs frame is no longer maximized.
>> I hope this is not the intended behavior!
>
> No, it sounds like a bug. Are you using metacity or something else
> (compiz perhaps)?
Metacity is what I'm using here too, and I see the same bug.
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* Re: frame auto-unmaximized
2009-07-06 14:33 frame auto-unmaximized Sam Steingold
2009-07-06 15:00 ` Jan Djärv
@ 2009-07-07 8:50 ` Jan Djärv
2009-07-07 15:07 ` Sebastian Rose
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Jan Djärv @ 2009-07-07 8:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sam Steingold; +Cc: emacs-devel
Sam Steingold skrev:
> with the current cvs head under gnome:
> emacs -q
> click on the "maximize" button (upper right corner, 2nd from right).
> the emacs frame is maximized.
> C-M-<right> to go to the next workspace
> C-M-<left> to go back to the emacs workspace
> observe that the emacs frame is no longer maximized.
> I hope this is not the intended behavior!
>
This should be fixed now.
Sebastian Rose wrote:
> Also, the frame doesn't stay in the background (behind other windows) if
> switching workspaces.
>
> I've sent two bug-reports about these two issues (sorry, still don't
> know how I could link to them here or anywhere. Are they somwhere on the
> net?).
The cause for this is the same. I have closed the two bugs.
Jan D.
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* Re: frame auto-unmaximized
2009-07-07 8:50 ` Jan Djärv
@ 2009-07-07 15:07 ` Sebastian Rose
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Rose @ 2009-07-07 15:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jan Djärv; +Cc: Sam Steingold, emacs-devel
Jan Djärv <jan.h.d@swipnet.se> writes:
> Sam Steingold skrev:
>> with the current cvs head under gnome:
>> emacs -q
>> click on the "maximize" button (upper right corner, 2nd from right).
>> the emacs frame is maximized.
>> C-M-<right> to go to the next workspace
>> C-M-<left> to go back to the emacs workspace
>> observe that the emacs frame is no longer maximized.
>> I hope this is not the intended behavior!
>>
>
> This should be fixed now.
>
> Sebastian Rose wrote:
>
>> Also, the frame doesn't stay in the background (behind other windows) if
>> switching workspaces.
>>
>> I've sent two bug-reports about these two issues (sorry, still don't
>> know how I could link to them here or anywhere. Are they somwhere on the
>> net?).
>
> The cause for this is the same. I have closed the two bugs.
Yes! Works like a charm :)
Thanks a lot
Sebastian
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