From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Shaun Johnson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: please make line-move-visual nil Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:00:44 +0100 Message-ID: <4A0C402C.7060804@slugfest.demon.co.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1242317362 27182 80.91.229.12 (14 May 2009 16:09:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:09:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 14 18:09:16 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M4dUc-0002XC-M3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 18:09:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36645 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M4dUa-00011H-Rx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 12:09:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M4dOM-0005zw-PP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 12:02:42 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M4dOG-0005yT-Ih for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 12:02:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50812 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M4dOG-0005yK-Bh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 12:02:36 -0400 Original-Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net ([195.173.77.132]:50538) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M4dOF-0008QK-Q0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 12:02:35 -0400 Original-Received: from slugfest.demon.co.uk ([80.177.204.141] helo=[192.168.100.4]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1M4dOE-00075K-ha for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 16:02:34 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:110873 Archived-At: Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > Please make line-move-visual nil, it is totally uninutive to have the > point move to the same line, when you explicitly told it to move to > the next line. > > It also breaks keyboard macros, since now you have no idea if you end > up on a new line, or on the same line but at a different column. > > I know that it is pre-test time, but this behaviour is simply stupid > and doesn't make any sense. FWIW I completely agree, I find this behaviour bizarre in the extreme. I appreciate that others, coming from a different background, may find this behaviour intuitive but I don't see that as a reason to change such a core behaviour. Shaun Johnson.