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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254302 Archived-At: > > [I even object to the Subject line: "Modernize...". >=20 > This is called "Dark Pattern" and is, in itself, pretty modern these > days :-) ;-) But the term is recent (if 2010 is recent), not "modern". > (I'm not implying that the OP is aware of this -- on the contrary). Yes, in this case, so dark that OP was no doubt unaware. Subliminal advertising hits even the advertiser sometimes. ;-)