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From: David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: hash-table-{to, from}-alist
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:46:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <492CE2B8.7090201@harpegolden.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvvdub40v7.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

Stefan Monnier wrote:

 > So the question is should we use #s(...) as CL does,

(That's definitely implementation-specific, just what clisp in 
particular does)

> or #s<...> as XEmacs does.
> 

N.B. It's actually #s(...) in XEmacs too, at least when variable 
print-readably is t. Otherwise the not-readable #<...> (no "s") is used, 
as per Stephen J. Turnbull's posts to this thread, also shown in [1]

Since hashtables are typically used for largish numbers of keys, 
supporting such an XEmacs-like print-readably variable* and suppressing 
the output of key/value data (at least beyond a certain key count) for 
the non-readable #<...> case seems like it might be quite desirable, 
though I dunno if XEmacs actually does such suppression, CL
implementations tend to (regarding xemacs compat it can't matter much 
since it's only the non-readable case).

* itself similar to CL *print-readably*, though  there's no guarantee a 
particular CL implementation can actually print its hashtables readably 
no matter how you twiddle that. Clisp does its thing. SBCL spits out a 
#. read-time evaluation lump that constructs a hashtable. Clozure CL (at 
least the outdated version on my system) signals a print-not-readable 
error... [2]

[1] http://www.xemacs.org/Documentation/21.5/html/lispref_9.html#SEC67
[2] http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/v_pr_rda.htm




















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2008-08-29 18:10             ` print hash table to disk and reread in hash table Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-30  5:18               ` tomas
2008-08-30  9:17                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-30 12:03                   ` tomas
2008-11-17 17:15                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-11-19 21:37                     ` hash-table-{to, from}-alist (was: print hash table to disk and reread in hash table) Ted Zlatanov
2008-11-19 21:57                       ` hash-table-{to, from}-alist Glenn Morris
2008-11-20 19:07                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-11-21 22:02                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-21 22:22                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-11-22  3:18                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-22  5:45                             ` tomas
2008-11-22 12:27                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-11-22 15:21                                 ` tomas
2008-11-22 17:38                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-11-24 15:44                                     ` Richard M Stallman
2008-11-24 16:58                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-24 17:21                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-11-25  1:50                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-11-25 17:33                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-11-25 23:50                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-11-26  1:46                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-26  2:16                                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-11-26  3:48                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-26  5:46                                                     ` David De La Harpe Golden [this message]
2008-11-26  2:29                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-11-26  3:34                                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-11-26 16:06                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-11-26 18:10                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-26 20:37                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-11-26 21:16                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-12-01 22:01                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-12-02  0:13                                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2008-12-02 14:27                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-12-02 21:59                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-02 22:20                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2008-12-02 20:56                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-12-02 21:27                                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2008-12-02 21:58                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-03 19:25                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-12-04  2:05                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-04  6:23                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-04  6:34                                                                 ` Miles Bader
2008-12-04  9:08                                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-12-04 13:18                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-04 15:02                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-12-04 19:34                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-04 19:57                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-07-30 18:24                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-07-30 19:08                                                                   ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-30 19:22                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-07-30 19:40                                                                       ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-30 21:04                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-31  1:30                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-31 17:49                                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-07-31 19:03                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-31 20:25                                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-08-01  2:22                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-01 11:35                                                                                   ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-03 14:53                                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-08-05  9:20                                                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-08-05 13:48                                                                                         ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-05 16:48                                                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-08-06 16:30                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-06 16:47                                                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-08-08 18:36                                                                                                 ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-06 10:13                                                                                         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-06 16:58                                                                                         ` Florian Beck
2009-08-03 21:23                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-31 18:10                                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-11-27  0:24                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-01 21:53                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-12-02  9:05                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-02 14:21                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-12-02 15:54                                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-02 16:10                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-12-02 16:54                                                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-02 22:19                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-02 23:27                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-11-26 19:44                                                 ` Davis Herring
2008-11-26 20:41                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-11-25  2:57                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-25  7:02                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-11-22  6:07                             ` Miles Bader
2008-11-22 15:27                               ` tomas
2008-11-22 18:57                             ` Ted Zlatanov

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