From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Changes to windows.texi
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:56:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4915EF09.3080806@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uvduyqeda.fsf@gnu.org>
Many thanks for looking into this.
> One problem that consistently shows up in your changes is demonstrated
> by the following example:
>
> The selected window's buffer is usually the current buffer (except
> when @code{set-buffer} has been used), @xref{Current Buffer}.
>
> This usage of @xref in the middle of a sentence produces badly
> capitalized English, because @xref generates "See ..." with a capital
> S. The right way of writing this kind of text is either
Here makeinfo (GNU texinfo - 4.8) does not capitalize the S for @xref,
so I was not aware of any such a problem. Or does it capitalize them
only in the printed manual?
> Another potential issue is as in this example, which is a full
> sentence:
>
> @var{window} defaults to the selected window.
>
> This makes "window", starting with a lower-case w, begin a sentence,
> which might look like a typo in the printed manual. (In the Info
> manual, @var upcases its argument, so the problem is not visible.)
> the original text was
>
> If @var{window} is omitted, this function returns the buffer for the
> selected window.
>
> and thus didn't have this problem. I didn't fix these sentences.
The problem is that I would have to write
If @var{window} is omitted or @code{nil}, this function returns the
buffer for the selected window.
to be correct, which means the sentence gets twice as long. And there
are many instances of that. Writing
If @var{window} is omitted or @code{nil}, the selected window is
used.
doesn't strike me as elegant either. Anyway, I'll try to fix these
somehow.
> There are some changes whose motivation is unclear to me. For
> example, this change:
>
> @deffn Command switch-to-buffer-other-window buffer-or-name &optional norecord
> -This function makes @var{buffer-or-name} the current buffer and
> -displays it in a window not currently selected. It then selects that
> -window. The handling of the buffer is the same as in
> -@code{switch-to-buffer}.
> +This function makes @var{buffer-or-name} the current buffer, displays it
> +in a window not currently selected, and selects that window. The
> +handling of the buffer is the same as in @code{switch-to-buffer}.
>
> looks for the worse to me, because it made one complex sentence out of
> 2 simpler ones.
If possible, please fix such stylistic issues. I sometimes wanted to
avoid using "It" at the beginning of a sentence.
> I also don't understand why you removed paragraph indentation as in
> this example:
>
> - Here is how you can determine whether a given position @var{position}
> -is off the screen due to horizontal scrolling:
> +Here is how you can determine whether a given position @var{position} is
> +off the screen due to horizontal scrolling:
>
> I didn't fix these, either.
This must have happened when I refilled them. I shall look into this.
Are such indentations necessary for formatting or are they a stylistic
convention? That is, makeinfo produces them anyway, and throughout the
manuals I find both styles mixed.
martin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-08 19:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-07 14:31 Changes to windows.texi martin rudalics
2008-11-08 18:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-08 19:56 ` martin rudalics [this message]
2008-11-08 20:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-08 21:54 ` martin rudalics
2008-11-08 23:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-09 15:13 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-09 18:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-10 19:28 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-09 15:13 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-09 21:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
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