From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Nikolay Kudryavtsev Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 14:48:05 +0300 Message-ID: <48fddde1-7dd9-f640-0171-ea3cecc09670@gmail.com> References: <87wq97i78i.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <86k2dk77w6.fsf@molnjunk.nocrew.org> <642fd4b4-8b1c-a537-5a5f-6940691ec4b9@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1475840973 10255 195.159.176.226 (7 Oct 2016 11:49:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 11:49:33 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 Cc: Lars Brinkhoff , Emacs developers To: Philippe Vaucher Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 07 13:49:29 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bsTeD-0007rk-J9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2016 13:49:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34135 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bsTeC-0003tM-0F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2016 07:49:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58666) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bsTdd-0003t5-1g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2016 07:48:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bsTdZ-0004y7-Sd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2016 07:48:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lf0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c07::22b]:34263) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bsTdZ-0004xk-Kr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2016 07:48:25 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lf0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id b81so38945588lfe.1 for ; Fri, 07 Oct 2016 04:48:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:subject:to:references:cc:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OYhGKf+CdLFvRqzCsE5T6y1YeVgs65ST50pL6Yo8VX0=; b=wy9JjpM1/8xjXwi0+hETVk624/iDGZD9YESExie/qSGQFrhRU/f7ze+BUlxbl5Sa7T ziqX0VMPAjfcI/ETODbpkN3ZQfPyrUQSt6aS7znPNA7o1ioruDYt8KZZyvWBeecbPgyt oEjOjyHCjTEHCY2lUzUlbK2lF605xDtH19xhzxC1dM0MB2kXTxdBGyNn1aZvrb0lpVwu MXn0S0K/mgEbFzjtf2/eXEUnrFOF7wHc/7GFRa9C4FPjiSusZki3uxXFWsWXz83iHD0T lqY6fi8chjOJHtvPwNVF47df53ilaB3RJSeVn7TWzu+68Lqk93SYIoEk+OjEOuU5hbXg 3tRQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:subject:to:references:cc:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OYhGKf+CdLFvRqzCsE5T6y1YeVgs65ST50pL6Yo8VX0=; b=CkFMTTPvY99qAKPnI968EgTkBKKS4/32Yyu9K76kaYKVFkK0hU32oxO8oXksMD+ZOl 53dy7G/WKIZ5H8kHCnpHn4EiF/4Djo6gt/LguIZaCht47rWL30WFTmyhY5eg/P0LmsV0 vz5jxudIg3svk4GRYEi26+NoFMPimpOS2yIp3jxidIft9P+uoCe1gWcRAN9YyvQwWo9p JW9iuPNSxQkxyu/byFm0PpAJ85mCNkgNq2pdG3CqaT/LgtgBiQ0gFp7Vf/N5f2HaBAva fqCkOPilbtDDh7OTdv5VXdUaXFJ3Ap47gWxuRkKHVIo9yW4IKFC2phm55dHTh29FR0SC D8jA== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RkSt7CNbiKfUTe36INQxWl3PqF9iBv5V4s+pby9ra18PdNHY1P0UttjIAIOBFfL9Q== X-Received: by 10.46.33.222 with SMTP id h91mr1577851lji.39.1475840902397; Fri, 07 Oct 2016 04:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.10.127] (mail.mcruises.ru. [185.17.79.180]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s83sm1712559lja.35.2016.10.07.04.48.21 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 07 Oct 2016 04:48:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: Nikolay Kudryavtsev In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c07::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208059 Archived-At: And that project already exists as Guile Emacs. But here we jump into a different territory - the current runtime is relatively well tested, polished and stable among all platforms. While Guile is not and I'm not sure if there is a free software lisp runtime that is. So, apart from being a lot of work just to migrate, for which there is no manpower, we would also introduce a whole slew of new bugs. -- Best Regards, Nikolay Kudryavtsev