From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Specifying mode in file variables trouble Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:21:19 +0200 Message-ID: <48DA770F.8010803@gmail.com> References: <48D44761.6000809@gmail.com> <87ljxny6n8.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <48D44C79.9020004@gmail.com> <48D63F30.8060102@gmail.com> <48D6E8FB.4070108@gmail.com> <48D79A25.7050000@gmail.com> <48D8BB40.6060806@gmail.com> <48D954F9.4010302@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222276915 17382 80.91.229.12 (24 Sep 2008 17:21:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:21:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dmhouse@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, aaron.s.hawley@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 24 19:22:52 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KiY4X-0007yc-JA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:22:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52654 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KiY3U-0003pq-U0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:21:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KiY3R-0003ph-Gw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:21:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KiY3O-0003pQ-Ji for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:21:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60155 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KiY3O-0003pN-Ei for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:21:30 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]:44688) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KiY3N-0002Wq-7D; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:21:29 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-151-87.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.151.87]:62185 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KiY3L-0003pX-7y; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:21:27 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080923-0, 2008-09-23), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.151.87 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KiY3L-0003pX-7y. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1KiY3L-0003pX-7y b6db108c170823e18a92fac5ece55f08 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:104115 Archived-At: Richard M. Stallman wrote: > I don't know for sure, but some people seem to want to use just php-mode > instead of the solution with mumamo. It is not clear to me why and if > some people still prefer that. > > Please ask them. That answer is the most important of all! I have done that, but a while ago. It seems like the arguments were something like: - They think using MuMaMo means that they have to learn more. - MuMaMo is more complicated and that may mean more trouble - Some believe that they might loose control. - There is also more code to download since nXhtml is rather large. I can't say these arguments are invalid. I have however tried to simplify things as much as possible on the user level and I do not know for sure what people think now.