From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Yesterdays observation of lower left fringe Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:11:40 +0200 Message-ID: <48D94D7C.3050808@gmail.com> References: <48D45225.8010900@gmail.com> <48D92F6D.1040904@harpegolden.net> <48D93120.4030308@gmail.com> <48D938E0.3010001@harpegolden.net> <48D939B4.1040505@gmail.com> <48D943BC.2090200@harpegolden.net> <48D948C6.5010100@gmail.com> <48D94C11.2050302@harpegolden.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222200727 16298 80.91.229.12 (23 Sep 2008 20:12:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Devel To: David De La Harpe Golden Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 23 22:13:04 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KiEFq-0004cA-Dc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:13:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33136 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KiEEo-0002BP-78 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:11:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KiEEj-0002Av-Sm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:11:53 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KiEEh-0002AM-2E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:11:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45775 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KiEEg-0002AC-8Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:11:50 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]:59289) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KiEEg-0004Gq-6O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:11:50 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-151-87.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.151.87]:60477 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KiEEe-0002CR-42; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:11:48 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <48D94C11.2050302@harpegolden.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080923-0, 2008-09-23), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.151.87 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KiEEe-0002CR-42. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1KiEEe-0002CR-42 a65c8758bd5f299ed814c2d4a4d54b66 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:104076 Archived-At: David De La Harpe Golden wrote: > Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote: > >> I can agree that "[" is a nice visual effect. But logically if we want >> to distinguish between terminated and unterminated lines it more feels >> like lower right is "more" terminating than lower left. >> > > Relative, though - how about just a (thick/matching) "|" for > unterminated?. Then it's "completed" with the horizontal bar of the "L" > when there's a newline? i.e. an "L" is in turn "more" terminating than > a "|" :-) > > _ > | hello > this is > | an example > == > == I can see what you mean, but lower right seems more "balanced", more related to me - and therefor easier to guess. You already have to know what the symbol is for to guess that a "|" means not closed. During this discussion I have come to think that guessing is more important than knowing the exact meaning. I think I have almost never worried about ending a file with a newline. _ | hello this is _| an example == == > _ > | hello > this is > |_ an example > == > ==