From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Yesterdays observation of lower left fringe Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:51:34 +0200 Message-ID: <48D948C6.5010100@gmail.com> References: <48D45225.8010900@gmail.com> <48D92F6D.1040904@harpegolden.net> <48D93120.4030308@gmail.com> <48D938E0.3010001@harpegolden.net> <48D939B4.1040505@gmail.com> <48D943BC.2090200@harpegolden.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222199574 12069 80.91.229.12 (23 Sep 2008 19:52:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:52:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Devel To: David De La Harpe Golden Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 23 21:53:51 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KiDx0-0003Mo-L7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:53:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37546 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KiDvy-0004bN-S3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:52:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KiDvD-0004Cz-1i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:51:43 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KiDvB-0004CE-7y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:51:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34563 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KiDvB-0004C8-3j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:51:41 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]:56565) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KiDvA-0005RU-QB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:51:41 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-151-87.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.151.87]:61247 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KiDv7-0007tu-9a; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:51:38 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <48D943BC.2090200@harpegolden.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080923-0, 2008-09-23), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.151.87 X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KiDv7-0007tu-9a. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1KiDv7-0007tu-9a dd51d8d310e802c1582ae4ee46cad965 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:104074 Archived-At: David De La Harpe Golden wrote: > Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote: > > >> If we think of the ending newline as terminating the line then maybe >> using a lower right corner for that and a lower left corner for the >> "unterminated" line would be "more mnemonic". >> > > You mean in different fringes for the two cases? In one fringe, that > would be plain ugly, spoiling the nice bracketing "[" effect for the > common case. My sense for this is more logical consistency. I think the symbol should be the same whether they are shown to the right or the left. And the symbols that fits together best with the initial upper left corner here are the lower corners, left and right. I can agree that "[" is a nice visual effect. But logically if we want to distinguish between terminated and unterminated lines it more feels like lower right is "more" terminating than lower left. But I would not mind much switching that so that left lower corner is for the normal case and right lower corner is for the "missing" new line case.