From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David De La Harpe Golden Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Yesterdays observation of lower left fringe Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:43:44 +0100 Message-ID: <48D938E0.3010001@harpegolden.net> References: <48D45225.8010900@gmail.com> <48D92F6D.1040904@harpegolden.net> <48D93120.4030308@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222195454 29730 80.91.229.12 (23 Sep 2008 18:44:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Devel To: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 23 20:45:11 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KiCsd-0006uq-96 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:44:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54894 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KiCra-00033Q-RW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:43:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KiCrW-00033A-Rs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:43:50 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KiCrV-00032w-B4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:43:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51971 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KiCrV-00032t-82 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:43:49 -0400 Original-Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]:57937) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KiCrU-0004Dl-Hd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:43:49 -0400 Original-Received: from golden1.harpegolden.net (unknown [86.45.8.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA rev 3" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 008B782C6; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:43:46 +0100 (IST) User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) In-Reply-To: <48D93120.4030308@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:104066 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote: > > If the last line has an ending newline char then place the fringe symbol > one line down (and let it be the same symbol). What about that? > > That would make the normal case where there is a terminating newline present*, kind of ugly IMO. I'd agree that the upper right symbol is a bit wierd, but better use a different symbol when there's no final newline, maybe something like |... , not move a line down IMO. i.e. a dotted horizontal bar on the "L" because the line hasn't been terminated yet. * Technically, a bit like C vs. Pascal ';', most programs treat "\n" as a line terminator, some as a line separator. Having the fringe marker move another line down for a present final newline would make more sense if newline were considered a separator, as programs observing that convention might think there was a new, empty line if the last line in the file had a newline at the end. But AFAIK considering it a terminator is far more common than separator.